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I'm about to build a Bob Moore/Eric Camerlengo 97 YZ125 team Magic bike. I have only found one pic and I need more. Can anyone help me?
Last weekend I picked up this bike
It has alu tank, Rinaldi engine (grey anodized cases and covers), grey anodized stock hubs with excel rims. Rinaldi CDI, head, kevlar silencer and a Messico pipe.
The cases are stamped "EC 2", rear hub "BM" and front hub "EC 1". The riders of the team in 97 were Bob Moore and Eric Camerlengo so the initials make sense.
Further the swing arm and linkage are grinded down for weight saving, the brackets for the rear caliper guard are cut off.
Suspension seem all stock unfortunately and the subframe that looks a bit like titanium is a chromed stock one but I'm still very excited to have found this bike.
Will keep an eye on this one.
http://www.pulpmx.com/stories/twenty-five-minutes-twelve-seconds-bobby-…
Maybe try to hunt him down and ask him. It's worth a try. Going from a world champ to someone most would hardly recognize I would think hed be flattered to help you bring his bike back
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I also got this photo from a guy who actually owns the other of the two Magic bikes that were imported to Sweden. The pic is of one of the two bikes when they just had arrived in Sweden.
I managed to find a complete set of 97 italian mx mags were i found enough pics to identify all graphic logos. I have also got scans of the original tecnosel shroud graphics so now waiting for EVO-mx to make them. A seat cover repro seems possible to source aswell.
I have got in contact with one of the mechanics of this bike when it was ridden i Sweden and i got to buy the original Bob Moore Öhlins fork and #10 number plates from him truly amazing!
I have also sourced a correct Rinaldi team cylinder and Hinson clutch. Most plastics and chassis parts are sourced, but titanium subframe still missing, any help highly appreciated!
Fork and number plates:
Engine assembled. The team cylinders had a brass ring mounted at topland to be able to run as lean mixture as possible - the ring could be replaced when damaged by detonations.
Oh and whats that spigot for on the ignition side of the engine next to the cylinder?
Conventional forks were used extensively in the GPs in late 90's. Marzocchi, Sölva, Öhlins & WP all had them in those years.
I just PMed you Bobby's email address. Let him know Shaun Langham gave it to you.
Good luck with the build, should be cool when you're done with it.
I'm Italian, and I worked in magic bike team in 2009 in supermoto world championchips (last year of the team!)
I have contact with ex team maneger and some mechanics.
About the problem of the spigot you can remove it and weld the hole. After that You can remove the exceded welded alu and sand blast it.
If You need replace the carter anodization, let me know. I've the contact to replace the original Rinaldi carter anodization.
I just did it on my Carter!!!
How's the project coming along ?
Regarding the spigeot I want to avoid the hassle of welding, my plan is to just plug it. Since it will require just too much money to bring it back to showroom condition my philosophy with this build is to make it as correct as possible but to keep the wear of the anodizing etc, to show it has a history. The bike is still in good mechanichal condition considering it's age.
Very interesting to hear that you that you have worked in the team, any inside info on those bikes? If you know of any source for a 96-97 team seat cover?
Since last time, some things have happened although the tempo is very low. First, I got in contact with Bob Moore himself thanks to langhammx - thanks a lot again! Bob recognize the bike and confirms that it is one of the team bikes
I have also got graphics printed, see pics. Next thing coming is welding skid plate & water pump cover mounts to the frame.
And if You replace all bearings inside of the engine..i really like See the work of the team on gearbox! There are some legend about it!
I just know that the team worked a lot on this bike..and the Bob Moore bike probably it was one on the fastest bike of the team ever! Bob Moore they told me that he was a awsome tester.. so his bike was so fast!
Before I suggest about the "legend" of gearbox. I'm not sure if that bike was the "race" or training bike.. But on the race bike some mechanics talked me about a gearbox with any gear worked by cnc to reduce the weight ..and superfinishing work. Just for that I asked you if is possible See the gearbox!
I'm Very curios about it!
Regarding the gearbox it looked stock to me so I guess it can have been changed over the years in Sweden. From what I have heard all the team bikes that were sold were different in terms of parts and modifications. Some had five gears for example
The only difference to a stock engine I saw inside was a modification to the intake channel.
Pit Row
Anyway, about gear box 5 gear it was not so stranger here in italy... it's easy to remove the 6th gear! And when you use it on the track? A lot of people removed that to racing.
The interesting work have to be on some gear... machined by "cnc" to reduce the weight.
Probably you have to watch around the cylinder and crankcase connection.. somewhere there you have to have some different from stock too.
My engine? Well I just restoring my bike (yz 125 2003) with some "attention" on the engine performance.
Is not a replica bike ... (well I'll use JGR graphics ..but I just choose all i like on the racing bike...and we will see what will be the result) but i tuned my engine little bit!
To be updated!
Robertmartin517@yahoo.com
About the link... no Way no possibility to find it right Now!
I have mounted all the plastics except the number plates and the brake pedal on my other 97 bike. Still waiting for the graphics to be adjusted somewhat. Also been working on the fork legs, waiting for some small öhlins spares to arrive.
I've a question (because I want try to build me one)
What are the diameter internal and esternal of the Ti subframe tubes? Thanks to help me!?
Cool Project BTW!
DJ
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