1984 kx125 my new project

bad juju
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got it today it is way rough.. what do I look for good bad and ugly stuff. thanks
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Mouse153 wrote:
Pictures man, pictures!!!
I know, right?!? What a tease to no post any pics!

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I know I should have put them on when I posted but I wanted to at least hose off all the grease and crap. It's way ruff but runs and is mostly there. Some motor stuff..







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More for your entertainment.

This was my yz I did last year.



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For fun a 95 cr250 with KYB SSS on it

With out the yz front end.

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Cool - it looks salvageable.
The motor's on those things were pretty solid.
The frame - not so much. Look for cracks, especially around the steering head area. In 85' they added some gusseting around the lower portion of the steering head to stop this from happening.
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At the moment I'm rebuilding a 84 motor as a 2nd motor for my 83.
Check or replace every bearing in the cases. The 84 had a worn clutch shaft bearing . (The shaft opposite the counter shaft) I've never had an engine have that bearing so worn. Lap the cases because old Kawis suck for air leaks. Use 83 Yz125 stator side main seals ( a extremely helpful Vital member turned me on to that tip) You are going to want to have the ports matched. They have the worst castings I've ever seen. Don't over tighten the reed block. You get an air leak. Your frame is going to crack. Sand blast it, check for any existing cracks. Add gussets on every area that looks cheesy. MX Rose already mentioned the steering head. I've seen them crack near the swing arm pivot. Early shocks weren't hardened. You may want to check if the shock body bore is worn. Not saying you have to ,just telling you they did wear. The coolest part of the 84 was the front fender brace you don't have. I'm having one shipped. I'll trace it and send you the pattern if you like to make one. The spoke nipples are aluminum. You may be getting née spokes if they are frozen. Electro fusion coatings sucked new . Its possible you will need a replate. Seal the crap out of the exhaust flange to pipe with hi temp silicone. It's going to leak. Kawasakis leaked air going in and coming out.
I may have that chain guide for you. I bought it but used something else
It sounds like a lot . It is. You asked
I almost forgot. If you buy main bearings buy OEM. DONT get the Hot Rods Main bearing kit. They have the wrong size bearing in the package. When you call them and tell them to get a new one, They tell you its not their fault and you will have to buy the correct size from them, True story.Not to mention you have to wait to finish installing your crank until the correct part arrives
bad juju
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MaxPower thanks. yes the brace was cool, would like to run one. I wonder if the 85 frame was better? I know I need radiator hoses for sure. also I don't think this bike has a good bearing in it, suspension, wheels. ect. this weekend I hope to dig in to see how bad it is. thank for the heads up..
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Nice work -the 84-85 kx 125"s are legendary bikes.I am a suzuki man normally but I couldn't help myself and brought this old girl which has a fresh engine but very ugly comestically.Its a 1985




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I would love to find a decent 85, very fond memories of that bike. Good luck on the 84 resto...I remember one of the magazines testing it, and after repeated "sky shots", the frame broke, so follow the advice, inspect/gusset.
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bad juju wrote:
More for your entertainment.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/01/31/122135/s1200_20160131_130235.jpg[/img] This was my yz I did last year.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/01/31/122136/s1200_20150201_154210.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/01/31/122137/s1200_20150201_153846.jpg[/img]
More for your entertainment.

This was my yz I did last year.



Not to change the topic, but about the YZ. Are those original graphics from back then or did you have those made somewhere? I wanted to build my old 125 from back then with those same graphics.
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they came from the U.K. and got em a few years back. when I was trying to get another pair again, I couldn't find the info on them and I swore I placed the info in my rollaway so I would have it. well now I cant find it. I do remember waiting awhile and costing almost 100 bucks for 4 stickers...
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Remember that bike well. Bought as a year holdover in January 17, 1985, in Stafford, Texas.


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bad juju wrote:
got it today it is way rough.. what do I look for good bad and ugly stuff. thanks
I have seen muffler burned tanks on 80s KX and KDX. Check for burn marks on the bottom of the gas tank in the area over the muffler. As parts and frames get tweaked in crashes its not uncommon for the muffler to come in contact with the gas tank. Self adhesive thermal insulation on the tank is a good idea in this area. Good luck with the project.
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Frames on all used bikes should be gone over carefully, you never know the history, it may have been a pro's practice bike and had many G-outs placed upon them!
Good luck with your build, parts can be tough to find on older kx's.
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So I finally found one here for $250 last night. she's rough but runs good. I already have it stripped down to the frame. rear section was bent. I think I got it straightened out though. The bad thing is that it has an 83 shock. I am looking for a 84 or 85 replacement although there is very little difference except the reservoir.

I am going to get the frame blasted and powder coated. all new bearings etc.
I had one of these bikes back in the day and was even lucky enough to race it at the last year of the world mini 1984 at saddleback against Bader Manneh lol he smoked us.

Pretty pumped on this winter project that I dont have time or money for!


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Yeah I was eyeballing that one and texted the guy. You can see the power valve and silver frame.
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I raced 83, an then 85 kx125s back when they Where new. They both broke frames. Steering head on the 85! All the problems noted by others are true. Hardware sucked too. There not many left because they where not built to last. BUT they where hands down horsepower king. Good luck and nice to see it saved.
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riv187 wrote:
I raced 83, an then 85 kx125s back when they Where new. They both broke frames. Steering head on the 85! All the problems noted by...
I raced 83, an then 85 kx125s back when they Where new. They both broke frames. Steering head on the 85! All the problems noted by others are true. Hardware sucked too. There not many left because they where not built to last. BUT they where hands down horsepower king. Good luck and nice to see it saved.
I totally agree with this. I tighten the fasteners on my bike as if im working on a model airplane.
I tried to get ahead of the curve by adding gussets to a fresh frame.
I used to ride so much as a youngin thst id have a stsck of worn sprockets by the end of the season. My KX should stsy tight as i haven't ridden it enough to adjust the chsin 3 times in the past 2 years
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Hey all,
I wanted to see how this project came along as I am picking up an '84 pre KIPS KX 125 this week. Looking for some OEM parts to restore it eventually after riding it around this fall/winter first. I'll check the frame out for sure as I'm one of those big kids who makes every motorcycle look small. Hope to hear more from the OP, and have a great weekend all.

Anyone know if this disc boot is OEM or aftermarket?



Front brake master looks like a replacement, handlebars and bar bumper as well look aftermarket.



Rear mono shock definitely needs a recharge, maybe teardown.



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the kx project is dead at the moment, I scored an 83 cr250 and have been on that for some time. after the 83 is done I will get back to the 84 kx.
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kx project is alive again, cases are split and going to eric gorr with cylinder and head. scored a nos rod kit. max power, 83 yz125 seal. is it both sides or just ignition side. thanks.
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I thought about going there and terry varner too. terry quoted me like 1500.00 for a turn key build! I had eric do some stuff in the past and his work was flawless. so I will go back, but I have wanted to have Tom do some stuff for me also but it just didn't seem to fit time wise in the past, but Tom has always had good reviews too. did Tom do a motor for you? if so what bike and how was it?
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10/2/2019 2:33am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2019 2:41am
Absolutely Tom Morgan Racing over Eric Gorr for any Kawasaki build... TMR was the OG builder on Factory Kawasaki bikes and has forgot more than Eric ever learned about a KX125 motor... Did all the porting/ head work on our 125 and the bike just rips 😉!
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