1980 Honda CR480 works replica!

Frog #1
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Edited Date/Time 12/5/2014 4:39pm
1980 Honda CR250 frame and 1982 CR480 motor.
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1/27/2013 11:52am
Why the black rims and swingarm? You just lost me. Not a replica.
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1/27/2013 1:02pm
I might powder coated the singarm silver or put a VMX aluminium arm on. I like the black wheels! The concept of the CR480 motor and 1980 frame is very close to the 1979 works RC500. Noyce GP winning machine ever used Ohlins shocks like this bike. This is a racer,not show bike.
1/27/2013 1:30pm
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I might powder coated the singarm silver or put a VMX aluminium arm on. I like the black wheels! The concept of the CR480 motor and...
I might powder coated the singarm silver or put a VMX aluminium arm on. I like the black wheels! The concept of the CR480 motor and 1980 frame is very close to the 1979 works RC500. Noyce GP winning machine ever used Ohlins shocks like this bike. This is a racer,not show bike.
Agreed.Ride that bike or race.
Sawheet mix of old school and modern.
It will also probably run forever.

Nice job!

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1/27/2013 2:56pm
Nice bike!! I am just starting to build one myself.
I believe that yours came from Woodland Washington, correct?
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1/27/2013 7:02pm
I like the 125 tank
How hard was it to fit the big engine to the 250 frame?
Frog #1
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1/28/2013 3:23pm
I wasn't the one who did it,but I'm sure it was real easy-diffrent motor mounts,pipe ect.
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This bike is SWEEET.I went to look at a 74 CR 250 the other day and when I walked in the seller's building he had a 79 cr 250 that look's somewhat similiar to this one posted.I look around and the man had 14 different vintage bike's,including a Harley 250,I stuck around for awhile and sucked up all the day's gone past.This bike posted get's this older fart FIRED UP!!! Good job.
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1/28/2013 5:46pm
Frog #1 wrote:
1980 Honda CR250 frame and 1982 CR480 motor.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/27/DSCF4689_313196.JPG[/img]
1980 Honda CR250 frame and 1982 CR480 motor.
The rims look SICK,,It just needs the swing arm to be red or silver,,then it would be ever " sicker " lol good job on the CR
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1/28/2013 11:16pm
Frog #1 wrote:
This could be next![img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/28/thor79250bent1_1_614569.jpg[/img]
This could be next!
The swingarm would be a great addition,plus it just look's as if belong's on that bike.
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captmoto wrote:
Why the black rims and swingarm? You just lost me. Not a replica.
replica of what?! Bike looks awesome!I have a 1980 CR250R ,And I love to see custom vintage bikes ,not stock restorations!
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1/29/2013 4:42pm
The 1979 works Honda 500 like Noyce rode to victory!
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Frog #1 wrote:
This could be next![img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/28/thor79250bent1_1_614569.jpg[/img]
This could be next!
That Thor replica arm has such an extreme banana bend to it (as did the original Thor banana arm) that it creates other issues. I put an original one on my 80 CR125 and just didn't like it. Swapped out for a Pro-Fab replica with a lesser bend. You have brake stay arms, brake actuating rod and front chain roller issues that all have to be modified for clearance issues. Moreso with that arm than most of the other ones with odd bends to them. Besides, it's just a tad damn ugly with the drastic bend....

Get Karl to make you a Tripes works replica one if you have plenty of time to wait.
1/31/2013 10:59pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2013 11:11pm
Coupe's bike looks bad A$$.


Hey Frog you did an Awesome job on your bike, I really love the 70s and 80s Honda's especially the works bikes. I tried to make all my bikes look like the works bikes.

But for me you missed it with the black wheels and the 1979 CR 125 tank. I guess I'm just really old school, I just don't get the black rims , not even on the new bikes, and when it comes to 70s and 80s Honda's I definitely think they should only have two colors, Silver or Gold.

I'm looking to build and restore a 78 - 80 CR 250 my self, I really like the 78-79s except for that big fat round gas tank, don't get me wrong even with that tank I still love those bikes , but I think the 1980 CR 250 gas tank is by far the best looking tank from the 78-80 era.

In 1979 I almost bought a new CR 125 , I really loved how much they looked like Marty Smiths 1976 Type 2 RC125, excepted for the small slanted tank and that goofy looking 23'' front wheel.

I saw a guy at a vintage race a year ago with a 79 CR125 with a 21'' wheel and he put one of those RC tanks for a 76-78 CR125 and it looked Awesome.

Any way I hope it doesn't sound like I'm bagging on your bike, I love all old Dirt bikes, especially Honda's and I know not everyone can have the same taste and likes, that's spice of life. Smile Cheers buddy great bike !!!

Here's a couple of pictures of the 79 and 80 works Honda's both with the same style tank that came on the stock 1980 CR250.
I'm sorry I just get a little jingle in my junk when I look at these works Honda's from this era. Woohoo





2/4/2013 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2013 4:31pm
Jon
cool bike!
Who built the bike? I know the was a guy who built a few on the east coast, and sold 1 on ebay a number of years back
and he did the 81 swingarm like yours.

There was at least 150 hours of machining done to this bike(built in a machine shop)
every part was modified, hand made almost all the bolt's,components on the bike, bushings, hand formed chain guide
hand machined ti shock, foot peg,engine bolts, ultra strong 1.0 dia flange ams4640 shock bushings, hand matched
super smooth pivot action, ultra trick floating brake set-up, ams4640 floatbushing's , trick aluminum spacers
remounted the tank,way to much to list, or even remember


Yes, check for proper swingarm/chain/roller/ brake rod clearance before you ride.
Remove your shocks, and check for proper clearance on full swingarm travel (up)

I had issues when I built my Marty tripes Replica( both arms)







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2/4/2013 7:08pm
Hi Rob- a guy in Washington state built it. It was one of 3 and was race tested by Tiger Lacy. It needs a the swing-arm powder coated siler and some # plate ovals and it's good to go.I have a new plastic Clarke 1978/79 gas tank also.The bike is way too fast!
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8/3/2013 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2013 6:31pm
Bike is for-sale! I have up-dated pictures, but for some reason I can't load them.
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8/3/2013 6:32pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2013 8:41am
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11/16/2014 3:21pm
Old post back from the dead.
Got the little 1980 CR125 today finally.
Rob Boucher I see you fabbed up your own swing arm, I want to go same route
and need some info / specs. if possible ?
Main concern is wall thickness, material spec when raw, and what your stress relieve / HT
post welding process was. Also wondering about keeping the bushes lined up after HT.
I would think they were refaced / bored parallel and concentric on the Bridgeport.
11/18/2014 3:58pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2014 4:02pm
I built heat treat fixtures to hold all the bores in alignment
i hand machined 6 (2x)adjustable fixtures for the pivot, axle, shock
mounts. to heat treat 6 swingarms at a time( save $$$)
plus brake stays Running the ovens that size and quench tanks set up
you are not going to find just anywhere, alot of the shops have closed there doors
but lucky here in MN we never really had a downturn


.125 wall 6061
Heated treated to 6061 T6 900 plus degress 8 hours, quenched, 12 hours or so , baked aged/stress relieved/
I had a local heat treat shop do the work. The foreman is a old moto guy,
I would have to look at paperwork to get specifs
just from memory, I just dropped it off, and picked it up.
and all the bores were fine.

I made up a dozen or so Suzuki twin shock arms the last batch, working on YZ 's right now, billet
goodies, and maybe a OW works style arm, i have to make a adapter to my swingarm fixture
for the correct triangulation point, should be a challenge.


11/18/2014 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2014 4:13pm
Jon,
Hope to see you at a race next year, Mark, and his son too!

Jon has nice bikes, and takes care of his rides
worth every penny, you could not build one for that!
11/18/2014 4:29pm
I built heat treat fixtures to hold all the bores in alignment i hand machined 6 (2x)adjustable fixtures for the pivot, axle, shock mounts. to heat...
I built heat treat fixtures to hold all the bores in alignment
i hand machined 6 (2x)adjustable fixtures for the pivot, axle, shock
mounts. to heat treat 6 swingarms at a time( save $$$)
plus brake stays Running the ovens that size and quench tanks set up
you are not going to find just anywhere, alot of the shops have closed there doors
but lucky here in MN we never really had a downturn


.125 wall 6061
Heated treated to 6061 T6 900 plus degress 8 hours, quenched, 12 hours or so , baked aged/stress relieved/
I had a local heat treat shop do the work. The foreman is a old moto guy,
I would have to look at paperwork to get specifs
just from memory, I just dropped it off, and picked it up.
and all the bores were fine.

I made up a dozen or so Suzuki twin shock arms the last batch, working on YZ 's right now, billet
goodies, and maybe a OW works style arm, i have to make a adapter to my swingarm fixture
for the correct triangulation point, should be a challenge.


OK great thanks, turns out it tons of work for a one off..
My field in more tool and die, we run two small 6" in cube high heat ovens for
tools steels. If I do I fab I'll make a quickie fixture and just resize and check
bores after HT I guess. We have lots of aerospace guys around here that do all the
processes, know a few people. Could very well end up with a seriously bent out of
spec swingarm if al precautions are not taken.

I guess pulling the unit back to shape post HT is out of the question, will just spring
back or weaken right ? Is this something you would anodize natural color after ?

Thanks again for the great examples and info.
Sorry if this thread was highjacked.

Those big CR are for men, not kids !
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11/18/2014 5:05pm
Jon, Hope to see you at a race next year, Mark, and his son too! Jon has nice bikes, and takes care of his rides worth...
Jon,
Hope to see you at a race next year, Mark, and his son too!

Jon has nice bikes, and takes care of his rides
worth every penny, you could not build one for that!
You to Rob! I hope to do more this year. The problem is finding someone willing to travel to the far away races!

11/18/2014 5:55pm
Nice bike, what is that YZ400 ? Are you French like Bouchard too frog ? They rest of Canada calls us French frogs hahah, we call the anglos square heads ( têtes carré )

MN is a good sport for XC skiing I hear, any snow yet. ? We got 8 in in the Quebec Laurentians so far this year, early.
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11/18/2014 6:06pm
1977 YZ400 a great bike! I got the frog name for be able to jump when I was a child. I'm pretty much 100% Swede. We have about a foot of snow already!

11/19/2014 6:48am
Cool and great bike ! The 400 / 465 are prized bikes. Missed a great deal on 465 last month. Was advertised as 490, I passed but by the time I figured out later from the photos it really was a 465 someone else also wised up and grabbed it from under me..

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