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11/6/2009 6:02 PM

What about the Lions Club is political? It seems to me if you value a non-political environment the Lions Club is one place you can find that. Seems like someone jumped the gun a little.
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11/6/2009 6:11 PM

I'm not going down that road Void! I could respond but I'm just not going to do it other than this post.. If you think my wife and I jumped the gun , so be it! I know better.
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11/6/2009 6:14 PM

BUTCH wrote: I'm not going down that road Void! I could respond but I'm just not going to do it other than this post.. If you think my wife and I jumped the gun , so be it! I know better.

I'm not trying to go down any road. I just want to know what side of the fence the Lions Club is on cause this is the first I heard they were political.

http://www.lionsclubs.org/EN/index.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/..._Clubs_International

To Provide a forum for the open discussion of all matters of public interest; provided, however, that partisan politics and sectarian religion shall not be debated by club members.
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11/6/2009 6:19 PM

MX479Guy wrote: Kid gets recognize for an accomplishment..wife blocks it.

Pretty cut and dry.

Why did you even post this thread anyway? You bragging about your kid, or you bagging on your wife?

Go Stillers!
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11/6/2009 6:49 PM

noob wrote: Rad.

You have a pic of the poster?

BUTCH wrote: No , I don't have a pic of it. We didn't know anything about anything, till we got a call from the school . Had no clue what the teacher did and I never saw my daughters work. My wife saw the poster and said it was really good. If we get the poster back, I'll post it up.

BobbyM wrote: this..sadly is about your daughter and her artistic abilities. yer wife jacked yer kid it appears. too bad many parents treat their kids as possessions instead of little people with their own feelings.

carry on...

Agreed! You say you don't raise her in a political atmosphere you just told her what political party she is against.
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11/6/2009 6:53 PM

minidad160 wrote: Agreed! You say you don't raise her in a political atmosphere you just told her what political party she is against.

Which political party is that? Still haven't figured out which side the Lions Club is on.
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11/6/2009 6:57 PM

BUTCH wrote: No , I don't have a pic of it. We didn't know anything about anything, till we got a call from the school . Had no clue what the teacher did and I never saw my daughters work. My wife saw the poster and said it was really good. If we get the poster back, I'll post it up.

BobbyM wrote: this..sadly is about your daughter and her artistic abilities. yer wife jacked yer kid it appears. too bad many parents treat their kids as possessions instead of little people with their own feelings.

carry on...

minidad160 wrote: Agreed! You say you don't raise her in a political atmosphere you just told her what political party she is against.

yup..through his own shortsightedness (or the ole lady's) he "butched" his own kid. afuckingmazing.....
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11/6/2009 6:59 PM

minidad160 wrote: Agreed! You say you don't raise her in a political atmosphere you just told her what political party she is against.

Void Main wrote: Which political party is that? Still haven't figured out which side the Lions Club is on.

and so goes america...the blind leading the blind.

unfuckingbelievable.....damn.
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11/6/2009 7:11 PM

For all we know the local lions club could have" issues,"taking the kids art work without permission isnt cool at all.Without more details, I have to agree with Mrs. Butch 25.
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11/6/2009 7:20 PM

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I thought that was a common thing to do. When I was a kid we had to draw a tree in art class. All of our art work was entered in a contest at the fair and I don't think they told my parents it was going to be entered. I didn't know it got entered until we were walking through the fair grounds and I found my drawing and it had a blue ribbon on it. I remember laughing my fucking ass off (not sure I was thinking of the word "fucking" at that age) because in the top of my tree I drew a blue and white striped stocking cap. I was joking around with the kid next to me when we were drawing them and I said "look at my picture, I threw some kids cap on top of my tree". Everyone at the fair thought it was some sort of exotic bird and I got a fricken' blue ribbon. Smile I'm glad my mother didn't find out they were entering my art and pulled my shit out of the contest. Look at all the people I wouldn't have owned. Your wife just took that away from your daughter. Bummer.
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11/6/2009 7:37 PM

Laughing at you Void. Been trying to bait me with your comments on every post this page .Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing i doubt i'll ever see the art work my daughter did, My middle boy is an awesome artist , when he was in high school his fucking teacher flat out stoled like 3 or 4 pieces of his work. They also put one of his pieces in the local paper and gave credit to another student for his work.
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11/6/2009 7:42 PM

Butch, I am honestly not trying to bait you into anything. The Lions club is as apolitical and nonreligious as they come in my experience.
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11/6/2009 7:54 PM

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I don't necessarily think they are all bad and they do some good things locally out here. That said, there are some things they involve themselves in that I don't agree with. But I'm not going into that. They can say whatever they want about being non political , non religious. But I've seen different. I'll just leave it at that.
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11/6/2009 8:05 PM

BobbyM wrote: yup..through his own shortsightedness (or the ole lady's) he "butched" his own kid. afuckingmazing.....

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11/6/2009 8:12 PM

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BUTCH wrote: I don't necessarily think they are all bad and they do some good things locally out here. That said, there are some things they involve themselves in that I don't agree with. But I'm not going into that. They can say whatever they want about being non political , non religious. But I've seen different. I'll just leave it at that.

Fair enough. Maybe your local club has gone rogue. The Lions Club in general is a good organization regardless of what your political leanings (or non-political leanings) might be.
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BUTCH wrote: Laughing at you Void. Been trying to bait me with your comments on every post this page .Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing i doubt i'll ever see the art work my daughter did, My middle boy is an awesome artist , when he was in high school his fucking teacher flat out stoled like 3 or 4 pieces of his work. They also put one of his pieces in the local paper and gave credit to another student for his work.

They probably knew that if they credited the work to your son your wife would pull it and refuse to let them show it.
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11/7/2009 4:24 AM

MX479Guy wrote: Kid gets recognize for an accomplishment..wife blocks it.

Pretty cut and dry.

Why did you even post this thread anyway? You bragging about your kid, or you bagging on your wife?

BUTCH wrote: I posted it because I felt like it. The teacher had no right to take my daughters art work and do anything with it but grade it. , and give it back. I loved the way my wife handled it, had they asked to put the poster in a contest to support a patriotic/ political organization the answer would have been NO, in the first place. My wife and I do not want our daughter or our family associated with political BS in any way shape or form, period. I can tell that point went right over your head, it didn't go over Nerds , Noob's or JPT's! Like I said you have no clue.

09450f wrote: i'll send her a ticket ..we could use her in our protests

Harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

she needs to get away from parent oppression...hee hee heathen

protesting what doofus? clueless doltdom is alive and well....
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11/7/2009 6:18 AM

noob wrote: Rad.

You have a pic of the poster?

BUTCH wrote: No , I don't have a pic of it. We didn't know anything about anything, till we got a call from the school . Had no clue what the teacher did and I never saw my daughters work. My wife saw the poster and said it was really good. If we get the poster back, I'll post it up.

BobbyM wrote: this..sadly is about your daughter and her artistic abilities. yer wife jacked yer kid it appears. too bad many parents treat their kids as possessions instead of little people with their own feelings.

carry on...

I agree with this sentiment.
I'm not against telling the teacher and their agenda to get fucked, IF it is what daughter wanted.
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11/7/2009 8:49 AM

Is this really what this country has come to with all this political bullshit? A kid gets recognized and rewarded for a work of art that I would presume was patriotic, and suddenly everyone is bent out of shape because the teacher and the Lions club are assumed to have an evil political agenda? It stands to reason that if the piece of art won, and the contest had something to do with patriotism, then the artist rendered something that demonstrated her own patriotic feelings. I would think that a pat on the back and a heartfelt "congratulations" would have been more appropriate. Sounds a tad like paranoia.
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11/7/2009 2:16 PM

Butch is right, you guys are missing the point. His little girl didn't do her poster to enter it in a contest. The teacher didn't ask if she could submit it. Not knocking the Lions, but when they or anyone else do these types of contests it's not really about the kids, it's about getting publicity from the "isn't that cute" factor. Which is fine if everybody is on board in the beginning, which in this case they weren't.

The teacher probably didn't mean any harm, but she over stepped when she didn't ask first. Until somebody said something she would have continued doing that kind of thing because she thought it was ok. Now she knows to ask.

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11/7/2009 2:53 PM

I can agree with that JPT but if the teacher over stepped her bounds by submitting it, then I would argue that not at least allowing the daughter to make the choice on whether they could use I or not was also stepping over a boundary. Of free will if nothing else.
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11/7/2009 4:07 PM

swizcore wrote: I can agree with that JPT but if the teacher over stepped her bounds by submitting it, then I would argue that not at least allowing the daughter to make the choice on whether they could use I or not was also stepping over a boundary. Of free will if nothing else.

I disagree. I never had "free will" as a kid. I did what I was told (you know, most of the time). But the real issue here is that you need to set an example for your kids. The way to teach the little girl may not have been to say, "Okay, decide." In our society, many people feel bad to say no, so they say yes to anything. This girl may have been in that situation, but by the parents telling the teacher to go screw, it showed the girl that it is okay to say no.

That's a valuable lesson.
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swizcore wrote: I can agree with that JPT but if the teacher over stepped her bounds by submitting it, then I would argue that not at least allowing the daughter to make the choice on whether they could use I or not was also stepping over a boundary. Of free will if nothing else.

Nerd wrote: I disagree. I never had "free will" as a kid. I did what I was told (you know, most of the time). But the real issue here is that you need to set an example for your kids. The way to teach the little girl may not have been to say, "Okay, decide." In our society, many people feel bad to say no, so they say yes to anything. This girl may have been in that situation, but by the parents telling the teacher to go screw, it showed the girl that it is okay to say no.

That's a valuable lesson.

I guess. Freewill is expressing your art or whatever. The daughters freewill was diminished when the mother said no. Yes I understand a parent guiding there children but this was a fucking art contest nothing more. BTW just like you (nerd) she doesn't have free will! As a child they don't care about all the bullshit. Just the fact they won a contest!
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11/7/2009 5:50 PM

WOW, I'm amazed this thing is still hang'n around the top of the board and has gone 2 pages.Shocked
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11/7/2009 5:57 PM

BUTCH wrote: WOW, I'm amazed this thing is still hang'n around the top of the board and has gone 2 pages.Shocked

Aw Butch, you know this is a competitive bunch. All they're thinking is, "But She Won!"
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11/7/2009 6:06 PM

Yeah , I knew when I threw this up I would get shit.. But, I can take it.. Lots of passion from you guys here. I respect it. When kids are involved people come strong with it,
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11/7/2009 6:22 PM

i bet she can't wait to move out...poor girl
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11/7/2009 7:32 PM

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Well Horny i still have 3 at home, 13 , 18 , and 22. That should answer that to some degree.
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11/7/2009 8:21 PM

swizcore wrote: I can agree with that JPT but if the teacher over stepped her bounds by submitting it, then I would argue that not at least allowing the daughter to make the choice on whether they could use I or not was also stepping over a boundary. Of free will if nothing else.

Nerd wrote: I disagree. I never had "free will" as a kid. I did what I was told (you know, most of the time). But the real issue here is that you need to set an example for your kids. The way to teach the little girl may not have been to say, "Okay, decide." In our society, many people feel bad to say no, so they say yes to anything. This girl may have been in that situation, but by the parents telling the teacher to go screw, it showed the girl that it is okay to say no.

That's a valuable lesson.

Good point my final opinion would then come down to said daughters age. Butch?
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11/8/2009 2:07 AM

My daughter is 13 years old, and like many young girls [ not all ] that age that are making the transition from little girl to a young women, the last thing she wanted was to be made over. She was relieved that my wife put the nix on the deal. But that wasn't the reason my wife nixed it in the first place. Some of the guys here that have raised or are still raising a daughter through there teen years making that transition, may have experienced what I'm talking about.

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