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ATTN: Kalisch - Unemployment Extension Clears Senate

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11/5/2009 5:06 AM

It's expected to pass the House no problem and be signed

Unemployment Extension Clears Senate

By Liz Wolgemuth

Posted: November 4, 2009

To the great relief of many job seekers, the Senate Wednesday evening passed a bill providing for extended unemployment benefits. The bill passed 98-0, the AP is reporting. Because the Senate did not vote on the original House bill, but on an expanded version, the House will have to agree to the changes as well. However, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said earlier this week that the House would take up the legislation right away.

The Senate bill provides additional weeks of benefits for eligible workers in all states, expanding on the House bill's provision for additional benefits in only those states with higher unemployment rates.

The delays in passage of the extension have been a frustrating experience for many Americans facing a still-bleak job market. Roughly 7,000 workers lose their benefits daily, according to an estimate by the National Employment Law Project.

Indeed, Senate Democrats have been tracking online the number of benefit exhaustions since the bill was first delayed. The number was nearing 195,000 when the Senate voted Wednesday evening.

On Friday, the Labor Department will release the October jobs report, and economists are expecting employers to have slashed another 175,000 jobs.
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11/5/2009 6:03 AM

Their gonna need it. Productivity numbers just came out and its UP over 9%. That doesnt bode well for any hiring.
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11/5/2009 7:33 AM

Hopefully we will get the buy a new house tax credit for current homeowners that have lived in their house for 5+ years.


That may convince me to buy...
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11/5/2009 7:43 AM

dougie wrote: Their gonna need it. Productivity numbers just came out and its UP over 9%. That doesnt bode well for any hiring.

Kind of shows that a lot of these layoffs are effective corporate fat trimming in many instances.

Seems like a usual cycle, businesses get busy, hire and hire and hire, have massive redundancy and individual productivity goes down while corporate productivity is in line or increased. Spending more to make the same or typical annual increases and value per worker is falling. Company starts having decreasing profits so they start trimming out and still maintains the same level of productivity or even more productivity. Per worker value increases. Profitability grows.

It's a common cycle and shows that many businesses are far overstaffed.
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11/5/2009 8:20 AM

This is going to help a lot of people sleep much easier. hopefully jobs can continue to be created as well.

If i had to bet I would say that once a health care bill passes, jobs in the health care industry should have a pretty solid push.

I guess it's up to the House and then Obama to sign it now?
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11/5/2009 8:25 AM

Pretty much, and from my understanding, that's a slam dunk
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dougie wrote: Their gonna need it. Productivity numbers just came out and its UP over 9%. That doesnt bode well for any hiring.

flarider wrote: Kind of shows that a lot of these layoffs are effective corporate fat trimming in many instances.

Seems like a usual cycle, businesses get busy, hire and hire and hire, have massive redundancy and individual productivity goes down while corporate productivity is in line or increased. Spending more to make the same or typical annual increases and value per worker is falling. Company starts having decreasing profits so they start trimming out and still maintains the same level of productivity or even more productivity. Per worker value increases. Profitability grows.

It's a common cycle and shows that many businesses are far overstaffed.

It's a common cycle and shows that many businesses are far overstaffed.

oh,brother..are you out of touch or what?
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11/5/2009 8:56 AM

Care to clarify?

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11/5/2009 9:34 AM

flarider wrote: Care to clarify?

Google must be down..........let me check.

Nope, it's working.

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11/5/2009 11:54 AM

House passed it

Off to WH

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11/5/2009 1:46 PM

Now Obama just has to sign it. Probably tomorrow, (friday) that will happen.
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11/5/2009 1:51 PM

MX479Guy wrote: Now Obama just has to sign it. Probably tomorrow, (friday) that will happen.

More than likely
I'm sure he's a little busy at the moment
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11/5/2009 3:19 PM

dougie wrote: Their gonna need it. Productivity numbers just came out and its UP over 9%. That doesnt bode well for any hiring.

flarider wrote: Kind of shows that a lot of these layoffs are effective corporate fat trimming in many instances.

Seems like a usual cycle, businesses get busy, hire and hire and hire, have massive redundancy and individual productivity goes down while corporate productivity is in line or increased. Spending more to make the same or typical annual increases and value per worker is falling. Company starts having decreasing profits so they start trimming out and still maintains the same level of productivity or even more productivity. Per worker value increases. Profitability grows.

It's a common cycle and shows that many businesses are far overstaffed.

getting rid of the stupid college boys in middle management will always relieve the common laborer to be more productive!
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11/5/2009 4:12 PM

I heard that the extension in benefits only applys to Democrats. Smile
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11/5/2009 4:25 PM

dougie wrote: I heard that the extension in benefits only applys to Democrats. Smile

Damn that Obama!!
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11/5/2009 4:32 PM

Corporations are typically FAR overstaffed, FAR! Ton's of dead weight. Some of the bigger companies like IBM, HP, etc.. are some of the worst in the technology field for being overstaffed. They sometimes have 7 positions to do what one Engineer can do Crazy!
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11/5/2009 4:33 PM

twizzler wrote: Corporations are typically FAR overstaffed, FAR! Ton's of dead weight. Some of the bigger companies like IBM, HP, etc.. are some of the worst in the technology field for being overstaffed. They sometimes have 7 positions to do what one Engineer can do Crazy!

That's the hell I live in.
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11/5/2009 4:44 PM

twizzler wrote: Corporations are typically FAR overstaffed, FAR! Ton's of dead weight. Some of the bigger companies like IBM, HP, etc.. are some of the worst in the technology field for being overstaffed. They sometimes have 7 positions to do what one Engineer can do Crazy!

Corndog says you're out of touch

You too Void Main


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11/5/2009 4:48 PM

This is great news for a few of my friends and my daughter.
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11/7/2009 9:10 AM

Obama signed it


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11/7/2009 9:21 AM

flarider wrote: Obama signed it


was there any earmarks in the bill?
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11/7/2009 9:25 AM

No idea, didn't read it
Why don't you tell me
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11/7/2009 9:32 AM

Didn't he promise no earmarks?

I haven't read it either, but I figured you knew.......
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11/7/2009 9:33 AM

If it had/has earmarks in it will you start a thread saying BO lied to us?
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11/7/2009 9:35 AM

Looks earmark free to me



http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3404/text

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 3404

To amend the Assistance for Unemployed Workers and Struggling Families Act and the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 to provide for the temporary extension of certain unemployment benefits and the temporary availability of further additional emergency unemployment compensation, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 30, 2009

Mr. MCDERMOTT (for himself, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. STARK, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Ms. BERKLEY, Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mr. MEEK of Florida, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California, Mr. JOHNSON of Georgia, Ms. FUDGE, Ms. HIRONO, Mr. NADLER of New York, Ms. BORDALLO, Mr. FARR, Mr. LATOURETTE, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan, Mr. PETERS, Mr. DINGELL, and Mrs. CAPPS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and in addition to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To amend the Assistance for Unemployed Workers and Struggling Families Act and the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 to provide for the temporary extension of certain unemployment benefits and the temporary availability of further additional emergency unemployment compensation, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2009’.

SEC. 2. TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF CERTAIN UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

(a) Emergency Unemployment Compensation- Section 4007 of the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 (Public Law 110-252; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note) is amended--

(1) by striking ‘December 31, 2009’ each place it appears and inserting ‘December 31, 2010’;

(2) in the heading for subsection (b)(2), by striking ‘DECEMBER 31, 2009’ and inserting ‘DECEMBER 31, 2010’; and

(3) in subsection (b)(3), by striking ‘May 31, 2010’ and inserting ‘May 31, 2011’.

(b) Additional Regular Compensation- Section 2002(e) of the Assistance for Unemployed Workers and Struggling Families Act, as contained in Public Law 111-5 (26 U.S.C. 3304 note; 123 Stat. 438), is amended--

(1) in paragraph (1)(Cool, by striking ‘January 1, 2010’ and inserting ‘January 1, 2011’;

(2) in the heading for paragraph (2), by striking ‘JANUARY 1, 2010’ and inserting ‘JANUARY 1, 2011’; and

(3) in paragraph (3), by striking ‘June 30, 2010’ and inserting ‘June 30, 2011’.

(c) Full Funding of Extended Benefits- Section 2005 of the Assistance for Unemployed Workers and Struggling Families Act, as contained in Public Law 111-5 (26 U.S.C. 3304 note; 123 Stat. 444), is amended--

(1) by striking ‘January 1, 2010’ each place it appears and inserting ‘January 1, 2011’;

(2) in subsection (c), by striking ‘June 1, 2010’ and inserting ‘June 1, 2011’; and

(3) in subsection (d), by striking ‘May 30, 2010’ and inserting ‘May 30, 2011’.

SEC. 3. ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.

(a) In General- Section 4002 of the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 (Public Law 110-252; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note) is amended by adding at the end the following:

‘(d) Further Additional Emergency Unemployment Compensation-

‘(1) IN GENERAL- If, at the time that the amount added to an individual’s account under subsection (c)(1) (hereinafter ‘additional emergency unemployment compensation’) is exhausted or at any time thereafter, such individual’s State is in an extended benefit period (as determined under paragraph (2)), such account shall be further augmented by an amount (hereinafter ‘further additional emergency unemployment compensation’) equal to the lesser of--

‘(A) 50 percent of the total amount of regular compensation (including dependents’ allowances) payable to the individual during the individual’s benefit year under the State law; or

‘(Cool 13 times the individual’s average weekly benefit amount (as determined under subsection (b)(2)) for the benefit year.

‘(2) EXTENDED BENEFIT PERIOD- For purposes of paragraph (1), a State shall be considered to be in an extended benefit period, as of any given time, if--

‘(A) such a period is then in effect for such State under the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 1970;

‘(Cool such a period would then be in effect for such State under such Act if section 203(d) of such Act--

‘(i) were applied by substituting ‘6’ for ‘5’ each place it appears; and

‘(ii) did not include the requirement under paragraph (1)(A) thereof; or

‘(C) such a period would then be in effect for such State under such Act if--

‘(i) section 203(f) of such Act were applied to such State (regardless of whether the State by law had provided for such application); and

‘(ii) such section 203(f)--

‘(I) were applied by substituting ‘9.0’ for ‘6.5’ in paragraph (1)(A)(i) thereof; and

‘(II) did not include the requirement under paragraph (1)(A)(ii) thereof.

‘(3) COORDINATION RULE- Notwithstanding an election under section 4001(e) by a State to provide for the payment of emergency unemployment compensation prior to extended compensation, such State may pay extended compensation to an otherwise eligible individual prior to any further additional emergency unemployment compensation, if such individual claimed extended compensation for at least 1 week of unemployment after the exhaustion of additional emergency unemployment compensation.

‘(4) LIMITATION- The account of an individual may be augmented not more than once under this subsection.’.

(b) Conforming Amendment to Non-augmentation Rule- Section 4007(b)(2) of the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 (Public Law 110-252; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note), as amended by section 2(a), is further amended--

(1) by striking ‘then section 4002(c)’ and inserting ‘then subsections (c) and (d) of section 4002’; and

(2) by striking ‘paragraph (2) of such section)’ and inserting ‘paragraph (2) of such subsection (c) or (d) (as the case may be))’.

(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply as if included in the enactment of the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008, except that no amount shall be payable by virtue of such amendments with respect to any week of unemployment commencing before the date of the enactment of this Act.

SEC. 4. TRANSFER OF FUNDS.

Section 4004(e)(1) of the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 (Public Law 110-252; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note) is amended by striking ‘Act;’ and inserting ‘Act and the Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2009;’.

SEC. 5. ADDITIONAL EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS UNDER THE RAILROAD UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ACT.

(a) Benefits- Section 2(c)(2)(D) of the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act, as added by section 2006 of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Public Law 111-5), is amended--

(1) in clause (iii)--

(A) by striking ‘June 30, 2009’ and inserting ‘June 30, 2010’;

(Cool by striking ‘December 31, 2009’ and inserting ‘December 31, 2010’; and

(2) by adding at the end of clause (iv) the following: ‘In addition to the amount appropriated by the preceding sentence, out of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, there are appropriated $175,000,000 to cover the cost of additional extended unemployment benefits provided under this subparagraph, to remain available until expended.’.

(b) Administrative Expenses- Section 2006 of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is amended by adding at the end of subsection (b) the following: ‘In addition to funds appropriated by the preceding sentence, out of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, there are appropriated to the Railroad Retirement Board $807,000 to cover the administrative expenses associated with the payment of additional extended unemployment benefits under section 2(c)(2)(D) of the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act, to remain available until expended.’.

SEC. 6. EFFICIENT USE OF THE NATIONAL DIRECTORY OF NEW HIRES DATABASE FOR FEDERALLY-SPONSORED RESEARCH ASSESSING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS IN ACHIEVING POSITIVE LABOR MARKET OUTCOMES.

Section 453 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 653) is amended--

(1) in subsection (i)(2)(A), by striking ‘24’ and inserting ‘48’;

(2) in subsection (j)(5), by striking ‘but without personal identifiers’ and inserting ‘or pursuant to evaluations undertaken to assess the effectiveness of Federal programs in achieving positive labor market outcomes that are conducted under contract to or grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Labor, the Department of Education, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, or other Federal departments or agencies supporting the evaluations. For purposes of conducting the evaluations, personal identifiers may be provided to any Federal department or agency and to any agent of any such department or agency, subject to the privacy provisions contained in subsections (l) and (m)’; and

(3) in subsection (l)(2), by inserting ‘, agent conducting research described in subsection (j)(5),’ before ‘or employee’.
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11/7/2009 9:38 AM

tcannon521 wrote: If it had/has earmarks in it will you start a thread saying BO lied to us?

Maybe you should start a thread saying he signed a bill that's earmark free as promised and isn't a liar?
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11/7/2009 10:36 AM

twizzler wrote: Corporations are typically FAR overstaffed, FAR! Ton's of dead weight. Some of the bigger companies like IBM, HP, etc.. are some of the worst in the technology field for being overstaffed. They sometimes have 7 positions to do what one Engineer can do Crazy!

flarider wrote: Corndog says you're out of touch

You too Void Main


i didn't say that..its small businesses that create the most jobs..but money is tight ,so no jobs

its not just corporate jobs

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11/7/2009 10:39 AM

twizzler wrote: Corporations are typically FAR overstaffed, FAR! Ton's of dead weight. Some of the bigger companies like IBM, HP, etc.. are some of the worst in the technology field for being overstaffed. They sometimes have 7 positions to do what one Engineer can do Crazy!

flarider wrote: Corndog says you're out of touch

You too Void Main


09450f wrote: i didn't say that..its small businesses that create the most jobs..but money is tight ,so no jobs

its not just corporate jobs

Said the same thing I did and you said I was "out of touch"

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11/7/2009 10:55 AM

most of the job losses are from small businesses

you didn't mention that..so 'out of touch"
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11/7/2009 11:11 AM

flarider wrote: Kind of shows that a lot of these layoffs are effective corporate fat trimming in many instances.



and you thought that line above meant, what?



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