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Please put your guns down and watch this, pretty amazing!!
Thanks to those who watch..
Thanks to those who watch..
Now...you introduce the wolf to areas where hunting by humans IS allowed ( like Washington state for example) and they compete with humans for deer/elk. If the population of the wolves is allowed to increase there will be no need for humans to hunt deer/elk.
How does everybody feel about wolves taking the place of humans hunting deer/elk?
As long as the wolf council establishes a proper hunting season to manage things.
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That was a really cool video ,thanks for posting it. We have a zoo in new York that has a wolf pack ,it's cool to howl at them and once one starts going they all join in ,good times.
Mother nature isnt something to be fucked with and it all balances it out.
Wolves dont raid chicken coops when they have plenty of prey.
same for coyotes foxes etc.
Thanks for the vid. Good stuff
The wolves alone are not even remotely responsible for all those changes, but I'm certain they contributed. Just so many forces at work, impossible to say one direct change made all that happen.
Putting the top dog back in the equation gets shit back in balance, that's what i get from it...
You see, they eat cattle, sheep etc. even when the yummy elk/deer are available. The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife has a Wolf Advisory board. They track wolves and keep track of the population and where the wolves go. They also dole out money to the ranchers who have loses due to the wolves and communicate and work with said ranchers to work out issues.
Hunters in this state are none too happy about the reintroduction of wolves. In fact, it is akin to introducing a child molester to the neighborhood. If Rosebud would have posted that vid on the local hunting message board with happy faces and ahh shux, arnt those wolves cute type of flowery language, he would have been tracked down and raped, killed, house burnt down, and all of his marijauna plants destroyed.
Guys, who have hunted the same spots for years with success, now go to those spots and find very little sign of deer/elk. At night when they crawl in their sleeping bags, they are serenaded by wolves howling. They are very bitter. Wolves are a hot button issue for sure in this state.
I like critters and would rather not shoot them, apparently you have a problem with that.
"If Rosebud would have posted that vid on the local hunting message board with happy faces and ahh shux, arnt those wolves cute type of flowery language, he would have been tracked down and raped, killed, house burnt down, and all of his marijauna plants destroyed."
boy, hunters sound like terrorists
They understand the balance and often times will police their own.
BTW, I like the video. Natures awesome for sure. Nothings more peaceful then going out in nature, finding a nice place to sit still and watching life around you exist as if you are not there.
well, now we all know you're full of shit. if you, me, or any one of us were in close enough distance to be "serenaded" by a pack of wolves then the safest place would be in your fucking truck heading the other direction. don't be silly bro, they're not big friendly dogs.
and wolves are very fucking detrimental to the state of the elk/deer/moose populations. look up the problems in Idaho and Montana for instance. often times they don't kill to eat, they kill for sport so to speak. they'll find a pregnant cow and eat if from the back side, kill the calf inside, and leave the mother to die. this shit is everywhere if you research it and it's becoming a bigger and bigger problem.
that said, the video was very cool and entertaining
Pit Row
As far as I'm concerned hunters whining about wolves killing elk and deer is stupid. Hunting is nothing more than a hobby, and that's all it is...hunting isn't the sole source of food for these people. They hunt because they like hunting, not for survival. And if the only argument against wolves is that it makes it harder for someone to do their hobby, that's a weak argument (there are more important things that hobbies). Its so silly to me when I hear
If wolves can do what hunting does, its better to let the wolves do it (and modify the amount of humans allowed to hunt). And they should let less hunters have tags, and that isn't the end of the world (Utah already instituted a draw system even for the general deer rifle hunt...people who used to hunt every year, now can only hunt 2 out of 3 years or something-some people are still lucky enough to draw out every year-some how?). Life will go on.
The only reason wolves kill for "sport" is because there is to much game...meaning the balance of the ecosystem is out of wack...as wolves continue to do "over kill" the herds, the game numbers will drop such that the wolves will only be able to kill what they can eat, and they'll eat everything they kill...usually that pendulum swings far past the balance point, and there will first be an under supply of game, which will result in starving wolves and the wolf population will die off, then the game numbers will rebound, followed by the wolf numbers...the balance is always in motion.
With that said, humans are still the top dog...any wolf found harming a humans livelihood (killing livestock) risks being killed the same way a coyote would risk being killed if it was trying to eat a wolves livelihood (one of the packs kills). It's just the way it is, and the way it should be. I believe farmers and ranchers-and their designated representatives: whomever is managing their herd-should be given free reign to shoot and kill any predator they see on their property...with the restriction being they have to leave it where they killed (no taking it to a taxidermist and mounting it) and report the kill to the DWR.
That's my opinion on it anyway.
Did you guys ever see this video of the lady reunited with this wolf pack ? I think maybe she raised them to be released in the wild and then went back to visit them.
All I know is the bears were shitting Timothy Treadwell for a week.
They put up with that guy A LOT of years. It's not like they just saw a human and went on the attack.
If that were the case, Whats up with these guys?
These bears sure look like they want to kill some humans. You know, because that's what they do to city folk. SMH
Those bears don't care about the humans because their tummies are full.
Hungry animals will attack and eat a human, and sometimes animals incorporate humans as part of the regular diet. It happens...you can't deny that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-eater
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