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When it comes to guns and gun violence in America, it’s astonishing how for millions common sense goes right out the window. Pretty much any credible stat showing global gun violence shows that not only does the United States lead the industrialized world in gun violence (per 100,000 people), but it’s not even close. Countries similar to us like Canada, Australia and England, which have much stricter regulations on firearms, have a fraction of the gun violence.
Yet despite this indisputable evidence, these gun nuts still honestly believe that even though we have well over 300 million guns in this country – we need more guns.
Often they’ll tout Chicago, and its gun violence, as the “example” of what happens when “liberals pass their strict regulations on guns.” This, of course, is a ridiculous comparison because one city doesn’t prove anything. The best way to look at gun violence is to take each state and compare the gun violence (per 100,000 people) to really paint a picture as to where gun violence is really a problem.
So, let’s do just that. Here are the top 10 states with the most gun homicides per 100,000 people:
Louisiana (18.8)
Mississippi (17.9)
Alaska (16.9)
Wyoming (16.7)
Oklahoma (16.6)
Montana (16.3)
Arkansas (16.0)
Alabama (16.0)
New Mexico (14.8)
South Carolina (14.8)
Notice something? 8 out of 10 of those states has a Republican governor (the exceptions being Montana and Arkansas), and all except for New Mexico have a Republican controlled state legislature / general assembly. Not only that, but since 2000, every state but New Mexico (2008, 2012) voted for the Republican candidate for president. Needless to say, these aren’t exactly “liberal anti-gun” states. For the record, the national average for gun homicides per 100,000 is 10.38. So these states aren’t only above average, they’re well above average.
And just for the “fun” of it, let’s look at the 10 poorest states in the United States:
Mississippi
Arkansas
West Virginia
Alabama
Kentucky
New Mexico
Tennessee
Louisiana
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Fascinating, isn’t it? Seven of the ten states that lead the United States in gun homicides also lead it in poverty. For another intriguing look at the big picture, check out CNBC’s rankings for the 10 worst states to live in – you’ll see many of these same states listed on there as well.
It would seem the best way to reduce gun violence would be to fight poverty – not buy more guns. Because as these stats show, very pro-gun states lead the country in gun violence.
And isn’t it interesting how so many “strongly Republican states” are some of the poorest in the country, while Republicans are also the same party that feverishly pushes gun ownership?
It’s a brilliantly dangerous con. You support economic policies that keep people poor, undoubtedly resulting in more violence. That violence then helps create the right environment for people to believe fear mongering gun propaganda, which spikes gun and ammo sales (which is great for the NRA that just happens to heavily back the GOP). Toss in a little religion to control people socially, pander to racism, and that’s basically the foundation of the Republican party.
Because if guns were the answer, every pro-gun Republican controlled state in the United States would be the safest ones in which to live. But that’s clearly not the case.
Then again, you’d have to be an absolute fool to think that more guns solves gun violence anyway. And that’s what gun nuts are – fools.
Yet despite this indisputable evidence, these gun nuts still honestly believe that even though we have well over 300 million guns in this country – we need more guns.
Often they’ll tout Chicago, and its gun violence, as the “example” of what happens when “liberals pass their strict regulations on guns.” This, of course, is a ridiculous comparison because one city doesn’t prove anything. The best way to look at gun violence is to take each state and compare the gun violence (per 100,000 people) to really paint a picture as to where gun violence is really a problem.
So, let’s do just that. Here are the top 10 states with the most gun homicides per 100,000 people:
Louisiana (18.8)
Mississippi (17.9)
Alaska (16.9)
Wyoming (16.7)
Oklahoma (16.6)
Montana (16.3)
Arkansas (16.0)
Alabama (16.0)
New Mexico (14.8)
South Carolina (14.8)
Notice something? 8 out of 10 of those states has a Republican governor (the exceptions being Montana and Arkansas), and all except for New Mexico have a Republican controlled state legislature / general assembly. Not only that, but since 2000, every state but New Mexico (2008, 2012) voted for the Republican candidate for president. Needless to say, these aren’t exactly “liberal anti-gun” states. For the record, the national average for gun homicides per 100,000 is 10.38. So these states aren’t only above average, they’re well above average.
And just for the “fun” of it, let’s look at the 10 poorest states in the United States:
Mississippi
Arkansas
West Virginia
Alabama
Kentucky
New Mexico
Tennessee
Louisiana
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Fascinating, isn’t it? Seven of the ten states that lead the United States in gun homicides also lead it in poverty. For another intriguing look at the big picture, check out CNBC’s rankings for the 10 worst states to live in – you’ll see many of these same states listed on there as well.
It would seem the best way to reduce gun violence would be to fight poverty – not buy more guns. Because as these stats show, very pro-gun states lead the country in gun violence.
And isn’t it interesting how so many “strongly Republican states” are some of the poorest in the country, while Republicans are also the same party that feverishly pushes gun ownership?
It’s a brilliantly dangerous con. You support economic policies that keep people poor, undoubtedly resulting in more violence. That violence then helps create the right environment for people to believe fear mongering gun propaganda, which spikes gun and ammo sales (which is great for the NRA that just happens to heavily back the GOP). Toss in a little religion to control people socially, pander to racism, and that’s basically the foundation of the Republican party.
Because if guns were the answer, every pro-gun Republican controlled state in the United States would be the safest ones in which to live. But that’s clearly not the case.
Then again, you’d have to be an absolute fool to think that more guns solves gun violence anyway. And that’s what gun nuts are – fools.
Geography lesson for one over here, please.
Were these gun deaths done during the commission of a crime, or were they stopping crime? What about suicides or accidents?
What is the time period? Did these states always have Republican governors? Were they Republican run states during the entire time these stats cover? What about the make up of the legislator?
Where is the data that drives these numbers? The product means nothing without the process.
Aren't you supposed to be out searching for a Russian sub right now?
The Shop
I own guns right now, and guess how many laws I've broken with them. 0. There are responsible gun owners. . . believe it or not.
71Fish has some valid questions and Void has a very accurate statistic.
The problem here is the moral compass needle has fell off and life has no value.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/23/texas-tech-no-means-yes-frater…
Quit fighting the erg J.F.S and go with it.
On the subject.
Taking guns away from Law abiding citizen's enables criminals,
Hypothetical question:
Two stores one across the street from another. One is in Colorado the other in Kansas ( Before July1st 2014')
Every swinging dick in the store in Colorado has a gun on their hip while the Kansas store is full of people unsuspecting anything other than to go about their business.
Wonder what store the criminals would decide to rob?
Yep, It's all the Governments fault these people are poor not their lazy asses.....
Fucking
Stupid
No more need be said.
My cows will stretch their neck thru the fence trying to reach the grass.
But personally.....I think its always in a criminals best interest to promote an anti gun agenda. Its not like "THEY" are going to give them up!~ but....Im not in the least bit worried. Our govt knows it would lead to massive bloodshed to ever attempt to take our guns away.
JFS is just board today & trying to stir an already overcooked stew. But like a true libbral.....gotta mind everyone elses business and protect us from ourselves too!
Pit Row
Most U.K. residents have a two word reply to this blow-hard.
( Str8shooter - does this make this guy a "true liberal" ?)
Maybe some have to.
Also, JFS, look at average intelligence and religiousness by state. The stats offer strong evidence for the cause of the problem. However, eliminating guns in this country isn't a realistic option at the moment. It's too easy to smuggle illegal arms in and out of the country. In a smaller country, you can just tighten the legislative clamp and the black market price of weapons skyrocket. I really don't see that happening here due to the fact that there are already too many weapons floating around and they are tied in largely with the drug trade, which legislation has failed to get a grip on after years of the "war on drugs."
" An inner sense which distinguishes what is right from what is wrong,"
A compass implies that morals come from an outside source.
If you are steve harvey, you could say "moral barometer" to sound fancy. Although, I'm not sure what atmospheric pressure has to do with morals.
Possibly.
Give a cranky or roached out human being a gun and a split second later lives can be changed forever.
We mainly stab people around these here parts.
Percentage of immigrants from countries where rape is "ok" is way too high compared to swedes themselves.
We are beginning to have the same problem here because we are following their immigrant politics, wich we of course should not do.
However, this doesn't in anyway change the fact that firearm laws in the states are ridiculous, and you know it!!
Here's another one for ya. 100% of abortions are performed by democratic Librals. Libral doctors murder more unborn babies than gun violence ever did.
Here's another stat for ya. Any democraticly ran and supported state has way higher unemployement and crime rates(not just gun violence), and a moral decay that people like you try to pass off as nnormal..
Its every law abiding American sitezen's rite to have and carry fire arms.. Thank God.
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