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I've been seeing him being condemned by virtually everyone and every outlet, but it just seems like more anti-America dog piling than anything else.
I think that everyone can agree that Lochte gives off the impression of being a world class d-bag, maybe even better at that than swimming. Not a huge debate there.
But other than a couple of areas that have those weird "energy consumption" cheap speeding fines, does anyone else actually have to pay law enforcement a cash "fine" without receipt on the spot? I certainly never have, nor have I ever heard of it in other states.
If an armed person held me at gun point and demanded cash for an "infraction" that I hadn't been tried and found guilty of, I'd certainly call that robbery........
This is more an example of how f-ed up the Brazilian legal system appears to be than a problem with Lochte and Co.
I think that everyone can agree that Lochte gives off the impression of being a world class d-bag, maybe even better at that than swimming. Not a huge debate there.
But other than a couple of areas that have those weird "energy consumption" cheap speeding fines, does anyone else actually have to pay law enforcement a cash "fine" without receipt on the spot? I certainly never have, nor have I ever heard of it in other states.
If an armed person held me at gun point and demanded cash for an "infraction" that I hadn't been tried and found guilty of, I'd certainly call that robbery........
This is more an example of how f-ed up the Brazilian legal system appears to be than a problem with Lochte and Co.
Some of their stories definitely were embellished, though.....
There was nothing anti-american. They made up story and went for a fame. I bet brasilians are pissed, they have actual problems there. They don`t need some drunk asses to make up shit about their country. They`ve made a great effort to keep everyone safe and so far it`s been a success.
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As for Lochte, definitely a dbag move. How they thought the real info wouldn't come out is hilarious.
Lochte is a douche, most probably, and he did embellish the story a bit and omitted the part about stopping to use the bathroom, etc.
But the gist of his story is true. Again, the Brazilian government side doesn't actually dispute that the men were basically held hostage until they paid a ransom to leave.
As for asking foreigners to pay immediately, I understand what you are saying but that sort of thinking is how the corruption occurs.
Let's say you are visiting my place of employment in the States. Let's say you spill some of your drink, "damaging" the carpeting. Should any member of my staff be allowed to hold you captive at gun point until you gave them whatever arbitrary figure they came up with so that you are allowed to leave? Obviously not. Not only could they set the "damage" figure as high as they want, there is no way to know that the actual business or owner would receive all or any of the monies paid. And it would be easy to pocket the money and still call the authorities to press charges against you.
I imagine that the guys involved started out being the foolish punks that most of us have been at least a time or two while out with "the boys". After having someone with a badge pointing a gun at them and demanding whatever cash they had, things got real, very fast.
Definitely a cultural thing, as a private security guard here demanding money from you in this manner would land that Rent-a-Cop in prison for a few years.......
He's not guilty of vandalism, or even a victim of a shake-down. Lochte's crime is being a dumbass, which sometimes carries a heavy penalty. In his case, endorsement dollars.
So ditto LoudLove...
a that officer would have been carrying a gun, does this make it any different? when your already in the wrong, as these athletes were for damaging the service station, you dont have a leg to stand on,
Being forced to pay for vandalism, on the spot, by the police, is not common in the US. It is in South American countries. It may have appeared to be a holdup at the time. Reserve judgement until more facts come in.
About the speeding tickets, I remember that there were a few places in the country that passed some "energy consumption" fines after raising their speed limits when the federal 55MPH limit was rolled back. Been a long time, but I think that Montana and Nevada both had those for at least a little while. You could pay the officer at the time of citation (receipt provided!) and the ticket didn't count as a 'moving violation' for insurance purposes, etc.
If you chose not to pay, you weren't detained at gunpoint but rather you were allowed to contest the allegation in court.
Those are nothing like a private security guard pointing a gun at you and demanding all the cash you have with you. That is being robbed, nothing more. Just because Lochte is a jerk doesn't change that.
I think its a shame its been blown so far out of proportion tbh. But Lochte and his buddies are the ones at fault for causing the initial incident and then lying about it to the Worlds media.
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Gabby Douglas after not placing her hand over heart during the national anthem: "Deport her! She is a communist! Take away her gold!"
These guys were caught red-handed and asked to pay up (at gunpoint) for the damage they caused by armed security guards.
I'm having difficulty determining which country has a more fucked up legal system. Both ideas seem equally absurd.
even his buddies that he was with said that none of that ever happened, that he was out of control and they had to intervene when security showed up. entitled little fuck-stick is what i see. and then to throw an entire country's police reputation down the shitter about some fabricated story? what an idiot.
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