Is Iraq worse or better off after US invasion?

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Edited Date/Time 8/17/2014 9:17pm
Maybe if we would have stayed there another 11 years or 111 years the place wouldn't be imploding now. Seriously what did we gain by going to Iraq? Please name one good thing that came out of it.
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Oil, it is questionable if it is good for the average joe, but it is good for people in power obviously.
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J.F.S wrote:
Oil, it is questionable if it is good for the average joe, but it is good for people in power obviously.
The US has more oil that the middle east... our plan is to use up all theirs, and then control it all and take over the globe....

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J.F.S 8/7/2014 12:56pm
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J.F.S wrote:
Oil, it is questionable if it is good for the average joe, but it is good for people in power obviously.
huck wrote:
The US has more oil that the middle east... our plan is to use up all theirs, and then control it all and take over the...
The US has more oil that the middle east... our plan is to use up all theirs, and then control it all and take over the globe....
Oil is so yesterday, the new power factor is the internet, google, Facebook, Vital MX and such, seriously, the old oil men are not ruling any longer, the web geeks are, hence Tesla motors our of Silicon Valley.
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rosebud441 8/7/2014 1:03pm
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NOT A FUCKING THING!!!!
But we spent alot of taxpayer money while shit bag Cheney, Haliburton, Blackwater, all cashed in!

Way to go team USA
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huck 8/7/2014 1:18pm
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NOT A FUCKING THING!!!!
But we spent alot of taxpayer money while shit bag Cheney, Haliburton, Blackwater, all cashed in!

Way to go team USA
I guess now Obama and his oil buddies are the ones cashing in?
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hillbilly 8/7/2014 1:27pm
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We killed some Muslim s ,not enuff,but it was a start.

Now,we are letting them amass there,going back and smoke a bunch more.

WELL, ITS 1,2,3 WHAT ARE WE FIGHTIN' FER,

DON'T ASK ME CUZ I DON'T GIVE A DAMN

NEXT STOP IS TEHRAN

AND ITS 5,6,7 OPEN UP THE PALACE GATES

WELL,THERE AINT NO TIME TO WONDER WHY

ALL MUSLIMS GOTTA DIE.
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J.F.S wrote:
Oil, it is questionable if it is good for the average joe, but it is good for people in power obviously.
huck wrote:
The US has more oil that the middle east... our plan is to use up all theirs, and then control it all and take over the...
The US has more oil that the middle east... our plan is to use up all theirs, and then control it all and take over the globe....
J.F.S wrote:
Oil is so yesterday, the new power factor is the internet, google, Facebook, Vital MX and such, seriously, the old oil men are not ruling any...
Oil is so yesterday, the new power factor is the internet, google, Facebook, Vital MX and such, seriously, the old oil men are not ruling any longer, the web geeks are, hence Tesla motors our of Silicon Valley.
Tesla won't be mainstream in the US until the price comes down. And once the price comes down, we're going to find they're not as "green" as they make themselves out to be.
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IWreckALot 8/7/2014 2:13pm
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As for Iraq, that place is a nightmare right now. Sorting the good through the bad is impossible. Not a shot in hell it's going to get any better whether we're there or not. God be with the innocent ones who are going to lose their lives one way or the other.
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hillbilly 8/7/2014 2:21pm
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We just bombed them,where those folks are trapped on the mountain.

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We're all fucked...Ebola is on the war path
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We're all fucked...Ebola is on the war path
Obama needed a new crisis
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The Rock 8/7/2014 3:29pm
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Uncle Tony wrote:
We got sadden Hussein out of power?
Who would have thought Hussein was doing a better job keeping things together than we could.....well Cheney knew in 94.
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The Rock 8/7/2014 5:20pm
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Sunhouse Norway can lead the way on this run if you think ISIS should be stopped. I think the US "broke their pick" the last they tried to "fix" things. New Rolling Stone has an article written by a solider who went back to Iraq after his tour. His conclusion: The place is worse off than before the US invaded....that is his opinion and my opinion is the US is worse off now that before we invaded iraq....unless a person doesn't really care about the sacrifices our servicemen and servicewomen gave then by all means they can thump their chest and talk about how we got rid of Hussein.
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Sunhouse 8/7/2014 5:43pm
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The Rock wrote:
Sunhouse Norway can lead the way on this run if you think ISIS should be stopped. I think the US "broke their pick" the last they...
Sunhouse Norway can lead the way on this run if you think ISIS should be stopped. I think the US "broke their pick" the last they tried to "fix" things. New Rolling Stone has an article written by a solider who went back to Iraq after his tour. His conclusion: The place is worse off than before the US invaded....that is his opinion and my opinion is the US is worse off now that before we invaded iraq....unless a person doesn't really care about the sacrifices our servicemen and servicewomen gave then by all means they can thump their chest and talk about how we got rid of Hussein.
I never agreed to the war on Iraq. In fact, Iraq, much like Syria today is better off with a strong dictator to keep the different religious and cultural groups under strict control. But what we are seeing now is what happens when these leaders are overthrown. We see it in Iraq, Syria, Libya and the former Yugoslavia.

But in Iraq the damage is allready done. It is up to the Iraqi´s now, but it is obvious that they need help. We don´t have to fight the war for them, but we do need to help them. I don´t think placing troops there is going to help, but drones, helicopters and planes can come a long way. The rest is up to the Iraqi Army.

The worst part is ISIL has been armed by the US, Britain and France up until now to fight off Al Assad. If anything we should help him and the Iraqi army.

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The Rock 8/7/2014 7:47pm
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What a shame that anyone thought democracy was the cure all. 50K to100K Iraqi civilians died during the invasion of Iraq and for what?.
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hillbilly 8/7/2014 8:04pm
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The Rock wrote:
What a shame that anyone thought democracy was the cure all. 50K to100K Iraqi civilians died during the invasion of Iraq and for what?.
For oil,ain't you been reading a godamn thing? Fuck you are stupid.
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Azcrf331 8/7/2014 10:42pm
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Iraqi's oil companies are learning mandarin just as much of Africa is now.

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Damn shame it seems to me to loose all those people and all that national treasure and we cant even have a fukin Exxon station in Baghdad.
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jtomasik 8/8/2014 8:57am
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motosmith wrote:
Hindsight is 20/20.
Some of us saw this coming, said so, and were ignored. It'd be nice if Americans would use their hindsight and history to realize we are NOT going to "fix" the middle east, and our meddling only makes things worse over there, brings the problems here, and grows the population of extremists.

When will people realize this??? It's been going on for 50 years, and it has not changed.
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What's going on in your avatar jtomasik?
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jtomasik 8/8/2014 10:50am
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What's going on in your avatar jtomasik?
New product I designed and put into production. It's a foam hat for Broncos/Manning fans called the Manning Melon. Just got first production (500 units). Darn thing's selling without any advertising...just by word of mouth. Got a peddler's license and will sell outside the stadium for the Texans pre-season game. Also in the process of trying to round up enough money to do a 5000 unit production run. Gonna use this money to fund 4 other products I've developed...but that require more tooling dollars than I have on hand now.
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Sandberm 8/8/2014 11:42am
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Sunhouse wrote:
I hope Obama and NATO bomb them to shits. Ideally, we should let the Middle East on its own, but we can´t just sit and watch...
I hope Obama and NATO bomb them to shits. Ideally, we should let the Middle East on its own, but we can´t just sit and watch a genocide like this:

https://youtu.be/L4eFW09QCdA
Thats really disturbing.

I was listening to NPR one day and they had a guy on who was talking about ISIL and the fact that they like to make and watch execution videos. Its like porn, they really get off on it.

Sometimes you think what the Germans did to the Jews was pretty bad and stuff like that could never happen again, but it does and always will. One just has to keep fighting against it I guess. The amount of videos and pictures via the internet makes us all so aware of the atrocities that are and have always gone on.

Its depressing.
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jtomasik 8/8/2014 12:01pm
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Thats really disturbing. I was listening to NPR one day and they had a guy on who was talking about ISIL and the fact that they...
Thats really disturbing.

I was listening to NPR one day and they had a guy on who was talking about ISIL and the fact that they like to make and watch execution videos. Its like porn, they really get off on it.

Sometimes you think what the Germans did to the Jews was pretty bad and stuff like that could never happen again, but it does and always will. One just has to keep fighting against it I guess. The amount of videos and pictures via the internet makes us all so aware of the atrocities that are and have always gone on.

Its depressing.
Ya think they'd be pulling this shit in Iraq if Hussein was still in power? Ummm...nope. The animals over there need a whacky dictator to keep them in their cages. That place isn't ready for freedom and democracy and all of that other feel-good crap.
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We're all fucked...Ebola is on the war path
hillbilly wrote:
Obama needed a new crisis
Ebola is nothing. Way more people die from aids every year. It's just a scare tactic. It was interesting though the doctor who was infected was able to get antibodies from someone who survived it but they don't offer that to normal people.

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