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Talk about bad timing yeah? You know Israel is pounding Gaza into the stone age when they need more ammo. Have you looked at map to see how small of an area Gaza is?
On a different note nice that the Israel listened in on Kerry's phone calls....who do they think they are....the NSA?
On a different note nice that the Israel listened in on Kerry's phone calls....who do they think they are....the NSA?
"Yes"
I'm not going to get into a specific argument. I believe they should press on until the tunnels are eliminated and the rockets stop.
It's been reported that HAMAS has 10,000 rockets/3,500 (est.) have been used.
How many Cease-Fires have been breached?
By whom?
Who fires from Civilian Positions?
Why was the 1st Rocket fired?
What was it suppose to accomplish?
Does HAMAS care about Palestinian Civilian Casualties?
What's HAMAS's Public Position on Israel?
And of course no one wants to see innocent civilians die- perhaps they need to rise up and oppose Hamas themselves..
The disregard for innocent civilians per the strikes on UN 'safe places' isn't winning them any of my support.
Not that that matters much...
The Shop
When the day comes that the Palestinians are SERIOUS about negotiating a 2 State Solution in GOOD FAITH & acknowledge Israel's Right to Exist?
Well, that day can't come soon enough.
Again, perhaps those civilians need to rise up against Hamas and refuse to be human shields..
HAMAS is doing this on purpose. Do you know their history? Seen the reports of them forcing innocents to stay in their homes in order for them to become "Martyrs"?
BBC and a other foreign news sources have some excellent exposés on the subject.
There's no denying that the loss of human life is Totally F'd Up. I'd prefer some specialized hit squads going in and eliminating the rocket "handlers"...
Imagine someone launching rockets on Toronto from populated areas in Detroit? You'd just take it? That's a reach I know; but, it does explain the dynamics, here.
As a few in here know, I come from the world of missiles and rockets...radar and satellites. I'm not reaching here. Been there, seen that, had the humus & gefilte fish, saw the hotties on then beach toting ARs, TARs & FALs...it's an entirely different world, over there.
There is a difference between just taking it, responding to the situation with appropriate force then there is responding to the situation with overwhelming force. In your example and mirroring the middle east for an analogy Detroit's response would be to hit Toronto with everything they had to the point of having to go ask for more ammo.
I would rather see Detroit perform surgical strikes on Toronto utilizing drones than leveling the city including it's power station.
That's like saying the Indians shouldn't be bitter at the white man.
But to answer the OPs original question, fuck no we shouldn't have resupplied Israel. We should cut off all aid to Israel IMO. We got problems here that need fixing. I'm just not a big fan of foreign aid considering it's so subjective in who gets it and who is ignored. Especially when the business of foreign aid is pretty shady and there are those making a fortune off of it at the tax payers expense.
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel withdrew most of its ground troops from the Gaza Strip on Sunday in an apparent winding down of the nearly monthlong operation against Hamas that has left more than 1,800 Palestinians and more than 60 Israelis dead.
And, if they can't figure it out when left on their own, then I guess they deserve the results of their actions.
Yanno, I wonder if instead of dropping weaponry on the middle east, we dropped humanitarian aid (medical, education, agricultural aid) instead in those same dollar amounts, and what that place would be like if we did that? Just curious. You'd think the Christians in this country would've fought for that.
Most of the larger denominations are and have been seeking / working for a peaceful end to the conflict for a long time.
Pit Row
We just don't do it right from the beginning. Fucking around with Israel and the whole damn middle east has been little more than profit-taking by our country. For many reasons, we shouldn't be anywhere near those issues.
Every Cease Fire violated by the same side.
Civilians Intentionally put in harms way.
Exactly.
When it comes down to it, the only reason the United States is providing support for Israel is because it benefits US weapons manufacturers.
You guys realize that we give Israel 300 billion dollars a year and 75% of that is required to be used to purchase weapons from us?
We're not humanitarians, we are war profiteers.
If you want to support Israel or Palestine be my guest. Use your own money. I don't want any more blood on my hands.
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I understand Israel defending themselves, but there comes a point where they've gone past self defence and it turns to just pointless death that accomplishes nothing.
They haven't destroyed hamas, all they've done is sent Israeli soldiers to die, killed a few militants and killed a ridiculous amount of innocent people.
And after all this Hamas will still be firing rockets at Israel.
IMO, If Gaza was ruled by the Palestinian Authority just like the West Bank is, there would be no violence right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDW88CBo-8&list=PLIBtb_NuIJ1zs1gI2nYdZ…
BINGO. Why doesn't someone ask Netanyahu why he lifted the moratorium on settlements? Abbas who is the head of Fatah which governs the West Bank would not resume talks with Netanyahu while the settlements expanded because he had nothing to show his people after a few year of cooperating with the Israelis. Time went by and even after Fatah and Hamas battled it out in the Church of Nativity Netanayahu refused to seize the opportunity to work with Abbas.
NOW Netanyahu is chapped at Abbas for forming a unity government with Hamas. What was Abbas supposed to do? Wait a few years for yet more settlement expansion while he is left holding his johnson in one hand and nothing in the other.
Realistic post without any emotional sentiment or distortion. Thank you.
I agree that Hamas will still be firing and this most recent azz whooping really doesn't help the situation particularly the Israelis. Hamas plays Israel like a violin and has no problem sacrificing their women and children in order to bring bad press to the Israelis.
Latest was this on Sunday just as the pull out was beginning after it already had been identified to the Israelis as a non target area.
EDIT Team Green-Have you seen any accounting on how many missiles, bombs, and bullets Israel has rained down on Gaza's CIVILIAN POPULATION? I haven't. Israel also took out the power plant in Gaza so potable water is now and issue so fasten your seat belt for a huge humanitarian crisis. The world is freaking insane.
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