Question your sanity?

MxKing809 wrote:

THANKS PS! I've been off the meds for a couple weeks now, so I guess I'm just on a roll! Im just really super bored at...

THANKS PS!

I've been off the meds for a couple weeks now, so I guess I'm just on a roll!

Im just really super bored at home...

Whats your MSMX handle? I don't think you're on my list!


About Aliens.......

Ask Neil DT about aliens and he'll agree its mathematically probable. There are billions and billions of 'earth like planets' that could support life. Our planet has been around for Billions of years and intelligent life is pretty recent in our worlds history. Is its hard to imagine another planet that started their viable intelligent life form development in the same time frame as dinosaurs?

Imagine where our civilization was 500 years ago and where we may be in 65 Million years.....

I do believe its somewhat arrogant to not only believe were alone, but also the most advanced.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough...

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough to bridge the gap and visit us? Would we even exist if they could?

MxKing809 wrote:

THANKS PS! I've been off the meds for a couple weeks now, so I guess I'm just on a roll! Im just really super bored at...

THANKS PS!

I've been off the meds for a couple weeks now, so I guess I'm just on a roll!

Im just really super bored at home...

Whats your MSMX handle? I don't think you're on my list!


About Aliens.......

Ask Neil DT about aliens and he'll agree its mathematically probable. There are billions and billions of 'earth like planets' that could support life. Our planet has been around for Billions of years and intelligent life is pretty recent in our worlds history. Is its hard to imagine another planet that started their viable intelligent life form development in the same time frame as dinosaurs?

Imagine where our civilization was 500 years ago and where we may be in 65 Million years.....

I do believe its somewhat arrogant to not only believe were alone, but also the most advanced.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough...

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough to bridge the gap and visit us? Would we even exist if they could?

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they...

Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they couldn't possibly know anyone would be here when they got here? Our earliest radio waves have only made it 100 light years from earth.

Racer92 wrote:

[b]"Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they...

"Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they couldn't possibly know anyone would be here when they got here? Our earliest radio waves have only made it 100 light years from earth."

The distances and timeframes involved are staggering. No truly enlightened intelligence would want waste its time with us. Would be like humans trying to chat with algae.

Homo sapien is a ridiculously primitive critter that is so chock fulla hubris & narcissism it actually thinks it has a clue.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

That's assuming they would all have the same mindset? If there are millions of advanced civilizations out there then the likelihood some would want our resources...

That's assuming they would all have the same mindset? If there are millions of advanced civilizations out there then the likelihood some would want our resources, make us slaves, use our planet as a military outpost, are just plain mean, like eating exotic meats, use our hair for fancy coats, are aggressive predators, think we would make great pets, try to better us, try to convert us to their beliefs etc. etc. is just a likely as some would leave us be out of indifference.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough...

If there are alien civilizations that have been around millions of years longer than we have , don't you think they would be technologically advanced enough to bridge the gap and visit us? Would we even exist if they could?

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they...

Out of the gazillion places in the universe to visit why would they travel the thousands/millions of years it would take to get here when they couldn't possibly know anyone would be here when they got here? Our earliest radio waves have only made it 100 light years from earth.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

Don't you think they would have the technology to know if we were here or not?

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

No, I don't. I am almost certain of it.

MxKing809 wrote:

One curious correlation is the rumored recovered craft in Roswell and the subsequent flux in technology. Fiberoptics, nano chips, Aero Gel.... The Bob Lazar story is...

One curious correlation is the rumored recovered craft in Roswell and the subsequent flux in technology. Fiberoptics, nano chips, Aero Gel....

The Bob Lazar story is an interesting read. The guy claims to had his life deleted by the government, and claims to have worked on recovered alien tech.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

No, I don't. I am almost certain of it.

jtomasik wrote:

I wouldn't be so quick to discount possibilities presently unknown to us. Entangled photons have been observed to transfer information between each other faster than the...

I wouldn't be so quick to discount possibilities presently unknown to us. Entangled photons have been observed to transfer information between each other faster than the speed of light, if I remember correctly. When we dive into behavior of quantum particles, there have been a few very strange observations that violate Einstein's speed limiting theories. Presently it isn't possible (by us) to turn these events into anything useful, but that doesn't mean there aren't ways of doing so. (personally, I'm hoping they can at some level and make a practical quantum-based computer)

Could aliens exist? I believe it's possible. Do I think aliens have been here or are here? I highly doubt it. But, technologies might exist in advanced civilizations that allow them to observe us outside of the limitations we understand. So, speculations about what they can and can't do based on our technologies may not mean much.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

That's assuming they would all have the same mindset? If there are millions of advanced civilizations out there then the likelihood some would want our resources...

That's assuming they would all have the same mindset? If there are millions of advanced civilizations out there then the likelihood some would want our resources, make us slaves, use our planet as a military outpost, are just plain mean, like eating exotic meats, use our hair for fancy coats, are aggressive predators, think we would make great pets, try to better us, try to convert us to their beliefs etc. etc. is just a likely as some would leave us be out of indifference.

Racer92 wrote:

Any 'intelligence' that 'thinks' like you just described would be intellectually as juvenile and handicapped as we are and wouldnt be able to cross the expanses...

Any 'intelligence' that 'thinks' like you just described would be intellectually as juvenile and handicapped as we are and wouldnt be able to cross the expanses of space/time to get here during the timeframe which homo sapien exists on this rock. Face it, we havent been here long, and we wont be here very long.

Further, you attached human characteristics (read, flaws) in your description. Pets? Slaves? Military? All emotion based human flaws. Any intelligence that is advanced enough to have figured out who to get around the Universe and its expanses, will have long evolved past the stuff you described. There is no place for emotion in advanced science and intelligence. Emotion is a flaw that keeps us back. It can be argued that since we are the top of the food chain and have no natural predator, our built-in population limiting device is emotion.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Perhaps, but one thing I am certain of, and that is the show Ancient Aliens is 100% rubbish. :) Many of the shows they are running...

Perhaps, but one thing I am certain of, and that is the show Ancient Aliens is 100% rubbish. Many of the shows they are running on the "History" channel, the "Discovery" channel and now even the "Science" channel are complete rubbish and have nothing to do at all with history, science or even discovery. It's like we have peaked, and are now devolving. We really are becoming the movie Idiocracy.

https://youtu.be/BBvIweCIgwk

SF45 wrote:

Here's another good post on this subject

http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

308's post= lol

gabrielmalinois wrote:

Emotions don't limit scientific advancement. I would argue emotions are absolutely necessary for scientific advancement, (curiosity and security are the primary drivers for scientific advancement.). In...

Emotions don't limit scientific advancement. I would argue emotions are absolutely necessary for scientific advancement, (curiosity and security are the primary drivers for scientific advancement.). In fact the more intelligent a creature is the higher their emotional capacity is as well. Emotions are a significant aspect to higher evolution, the lack of emotions would be devolution and make the creature more like animals, not more advanced. If there are millions of other advanced civilizations then certainly some of them (if not all) would have similar emotions to ours. If millions are totally different and unfathomable to us there would also be millions similar to us.

gabrielmalinois wrote:

Emotions don't limit scientific advancement. I would argue emotions are absolutely necessary for scientific advancement, (curiosity and security are the primary drivers for scientific advancement.). In...

Emotions don't limit scientific advancement. I would argue emotions are absolutely necessary for scientific advancement, (curiosity and security are the primary drivers for scientific advancement.). In fact the more intelligent a creature is the higher their emotional capacity is as well. Emotions are a significant aspect to higher evolution, the lack of emotions would be devolution and make the creature more like animals, not more advanced. If there are millions of other advanced civilizations then certainly some of them (if not all) would have similar emotions to ours. If millions are totally different and unfathomable to us there would also be millions similar to us.

Racer92 wrote:

I respect your right to your opinion, but disagree.

I guess thats the Cro-Magnon in me showing.

Racer92 wrote:

Any 'intelligence' that 'thinks' like you just described would be intellectually as juvenile and handicapped as we are and wouldnt be able to cross the expanses...

Any 'intelligence' that 'thinks' like you just described would be intellectually as juvenile and handicapped as we are and wouldnt be able to cross the expanses of space/time to get here during the timeframe which homo sapien exists on this rock. Face it, we havent been here long, and we wont be here very long.

Further, you attached human characteristics (read, flaws) in your description. Pets? Slaves? Military? All emotion based human flaws. Any intelligence that is advanced enough to have figured out who to get around the Universe and its expanses, will have long evolved past the stuff you described. There is no place for emotion in advanced science and intelligence. Emotion is a flaw that keeps us back. It can be argued that since we are the top of the food chain and have no natural predator, our built-in population limiting device is emotion.

jtomasik wrote:

I wouldn't be so quick to discount possibilities presently unknown to us. Entangled photons have been observed to transfer information between each other faster than the...

I wouldn't be so quick to discount possibilities presently unknown to us. Entangled photons have been observed to transfer information between each other faster than the speed of light, if I remember correctly. When we dive into behavior of quantum particles, there have been a few very strange observations that violate Einstein's speed limiting theories. Presently it isn't possible (by us) to turn these events into anything useful, but that doesn't mean there aren't ways of doing so. (personally, I'm hoping they can at some level and make a practical quantum-based computer)

Could aliens exist? I believe it's possible. Do I think aliens have been here or are here? I highly doubt it. But, technologies might exist in advanced civilizations that allow them to observe us outside of the limitations we understand. So, speculations about what they can and can't do based on our technologies may not mean much.

JPT wrote:

Not supporting the AA viewpoint by any means, but it is interesting trying to figure out how stone age humans managed to build temples, monuments etc...

Not supporting the AA viewpoint by any means, but it is interesting trying to figure out how stone age humans managed to build temples, monuments etc by cutting, moving and stacking stone blocks weighing 10s of tons (or more) on top of each other. Fitting them together so precisely. And the fact you can find examples of this all over the globe.

When you've got such profound mysteries it's not surprising that people come up with "THE ANSWER". After that decision the evidence just keeps rolling in from their perspective.

motogeezer wrote:

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JPT wrote:

Not supporting the AA viewpoint by any means, but it is interesting trying to figure out how stone age humans managed to build temples, monuments etc...

Not supporting the AA viewpoint by any means, but it is interesting trying to figure out how stone age humans managed to build temples, monuments etc by cutting, moving and stacking stone blocks weighing 10s of tons (or more) on top of each other. Fitting them together so precisely. And the fact you can find examples of this all over the globe.

When you've got such profound mysteries it's not surprising that people come up with "THE ANSWER". After that decision the evidence just keeps rolling in from their perspective.

the_wood109 wrote:

The truth is so much more interesting than the lies, IMO. This is a long video, but it's awesome. It thoroughly debunks that AA nonsense, and...

The truth is so much more interesting than the lies, IMO.

This is a long video, but it's awesome. It thoroughly debunks that AA nonsense, and offers a pretty good description of what we know about these sites and how we know it. It's all referenced with the work of true professionals, and if the video alone isn't enough, the references go much deeper.