Posts
1817
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Hollywood, CA
US
Edited Date/Time
12/6/2014 11:46am
[http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/ind…. cop not indicted in choke hold death http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/ind…]
I can say this was handled much more efficient than the Ferguson deal.
The only reason this is a national story is because of the Ferguson deal. On the surface, this appears more offensive than the Ferguson deal.
The Shop
Okay, I was thinking it was a national story because:
1) he was unarmed, being dealt with for something that was probably the equivalent of a jaywalking ticket.
2) he was choked, which is against NYPD policy.
3) The Medical Examiner ruled his death a homicide by choking.
4) It's on video.
Should this NOT be a national story? Regardless of Ferguson?
Here's the video
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=925_1405756427
Without seeing how the whole thing went down it's not fair to make a judgment. There obviously was more to this confrontation than what was caught and/or shown on the video clip.
He obviously resisted arrest on the video and whether or not the supposed "choke hold" was the type that hand been banned by the NYPD but not by law is in question. The officer administering the hold from the back had his left arm around the neck but his right arm was an underhook under the armpit of the man, not a MMA style rear naked choke. Whether or not it was changed later to that style of choke I don't know.
Whether or not it is true I'm not sure but I heard that he had 31 prior arrests. Were any of those for resisting arrest? Why didn't he just comply and let them cuff him?
Anytime you don't comply with orders from the police you are asking for trouble.
The remarks by Obama about people being treated fairly and nonsense and once again he fuels the fire for racial tension. I don't care who are what color you are, if you don't comply with the orders things will get worse in short fashion.
The other side of it is that he is morbidly obese and when people are unhealthy like that they do have a greater chance of dying when their body is put under a lot of stress. If they knocked a blood clot loose it could have went to his lung or heart and that could have been what killed him. Not to take anything away from what the cops did but I have seen younger homeless people die under very strange circumstances that are a result of being unhealthy/homeless.
There were quite a few officers in that video though. No reason a good tasing wouldn't have done the trick.
Do you think that the authorities should have shot and killed all of the guys who showed up to confront them when trying to evict Cliven Bundy off of the land he hadn't paid fees for? The guys who were actually pointing real weapons at law enforcement officers?
Pit Row
I gotta say.....Im on the fence about this one! (so far)......
He was still wrong for resisting arrest...PERIOD! All he had to do is turn around and put his hands behind his back and shut up! Its that easy!
My questions remain with ...did it really need to escalate to tackling him for what... selling his cigarettes? He supposedly just broke up a fight.......not just committed a strong arm robbery! If I was the cops I would'nt have even looked at this guy.
This one is NOT the same as what happened in Ferguson! I dont like the smell of this one!
Having to deal with dipshits all the time that wont listen and now have the president say you are a thug basically ,it would be hard to keep going out and trying.
P
P
Post a reply to: No indictment in New York...thoughts.