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Man, I have never been so enraged watching a documentary series in my life.
Description of Netflix's 'Making a Murderer' from NY Times.
"In 2003, Steven Avery, a Wisconsin man who had served 18 years in prison for sexual assault, was exonerated through DNA evidence. The victim in the original crime apologized to Mr. Avery and a state bill devised to minimize such wrongful convictions took his name. The high-profile case became a calling card for the Wisconsin Innocence Project, a local version of the national nonprofit devoted to helping those wrongly accused.
Two years later, he was arrested again and charged with a new crime: murder. Despite Mr. Avery’s claims that he was being framed by officials because of his $36 million dollar lawsuit against county officials over his previous conviction, he was found guilty and is now serving a life sentence."
Oh my god, if you haven't watched this, turn it on now. Be warned, you may fuck up your flat screen TV when you throw your remote at it while being more mad at the world than ever before. Look, I know police can be dirty, I know bad shit happens to good people and I know a lot of wrongly convicted people made some bad moves to put themselves in shitty spots, but this is downright the dirtiest set of circumstances I've ever witnessed. Granted, the story is told from an angle of two filmmakers who obviously see things a certain way, but facts are facts. These facts will have your stomach turning while trying to figure out how you can help two guys with IQ's combined that don't equal the guy at McDonalds asking you, "do you want fries with that?"
I just turned it off after binge watching four episodes with the wife. We just could not take it any more and agreed to calm down and reconvene tomorrow evening for episode 5. What's funny is, I got my wife into it after I watched episode 1 alone. After she caught up watching episode 1 and after reading some articles, my wife was leaning towards Steven Avery being guilty of the murder. Now after four episodes, she's more mad than I.
Anyways, check out this series. If you already have, what do you think?
At first glance I assumed it was a dramatisation, like Narcos. Is it more of a documentary?
I just swapped out Hulu for Netflix for a couple months since i had seen pretty much everything on Netflix. BUT, i found episode 1 of this online just now. Gonna check it out!
https://youtu.be/34M2zdLc-2U
btw: January ill be going back to Netflix when House of Card starts a new season.
I'm only one episode in, but definitely seems like some shitty work on the prosecution side from the police up.
Shane
The Shop
God I wanna say I watched something with thE same guy but later was found that he actually did do the rapingetc etc. wish I could rememeber where the hell I watched that...
Scottie, like you, I love crime stuff as well. I used to love Forensic Files, but have since moved away from the re-enactment shows like FF. I think First 48 is my favorite.
Also, I don't believe this is a spin is spin deal. This film makers knew nobody going into it. Unlike all the players, they had no agenda. Just two Columbia University film students. The story is told through interviews and facts. Before I turned this on I was definitely thinking this man killed her. I am now 99.999999999999% that there is zero chance. What they did to that 16 year old kid is the most criminal thing I've ever seen. I predict both will be out of prison.
Obviously Teresa is a true victim, but they need to figure out who killed her. It was not the two people in prison. Since watching it I spent all day online researching the people on the "side of justice" and there is not a more corrupt group in this world.
After the second episode of this series I feel like this guy had some serious bad luck and was getting screwed hard. It's easy to say after a third stop and she isn't making any more calls or anything then you gotta say you think it would be him especially with the car being at his salvage yard.
The two detectives that questioned that 16 year old kid should be sent to prison. If that wasn't a forced confession I don't know what is. He wrote the true story on a piece of paper and the dude tells him to change it. I wanted to punch the TV.
How can they even question a minor without a guardian or an attorney present? I thought questioning a minor was illegal but I guess I'm wrong.
What's sad is, lets say they believe Brendan's BS coerced confession (which, like you, I believe his original story) how the hell does he end up with that much time.
What's even more sad, I believe it was Brenden's older brother, Bobby Dassey, that did it. I think Bobby and possibly that dude their mom was dating, did it. Either way, this is a sick display of bully justice and I'm hoping this series gains incredible traction so millions watch and raise hell. I'm not saying Avery is a great guy, but his crimes in life pale in comparison to those cops, lawyers and judges.
I get there's a slant to the series. I'm also aware there's things we don't know. But watching some of the interview footage and seeing the way they went about it, there's no way the police are clean. The entire case (even if Avery is guilty) is tainted. My personal feeling is the guy didn't do it. Did he do some other shitty things in his life? Absolutely. But he was cleared of the rape they put on him...and now they go after a murder for the guy? The whole case is beyond strange and the way certain players weave in and out is not coincidental.
Shane
Pit Row
I still can't believe they convicted the guy. He wasn't without his issues, but I don't see how he did this crime.
Shane
The biggest one for me is when Sergeant Colborn called dispatch and asks who that license plate # was for. Finds out it's Teresa's and says, "It's a '99 Toyota Rav 4" days before it was discovered on Avery's property. To me, that and Sergeant Colborn reaction to it on the stand left no doubt he had found the car that day and was reading the plate off of it. I wanted to jump through the TV and sock him in the face when he said, "I didn't say '99 Rav 4, she did". They lie so much, they have no issue doing it as you listen to real evidence. CRAZY!!
After watching it I'm left with more questions then answers. I bet I could fill a page here with all the questions I have. With that I'm not sure who did it Could have been Steven and Brendan and it couldn't have. At any rate my thoughts and Prayers go out to the Parents of Theresa.
Just way to Bizarre that it happened twice to this guy who already spent time for doing something he didn't do.
Did find myself with anxiety while trying to sleep trying to think this thing through and still do, just too many unanswered questions
Looks like it has
https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-free-steven-ave…
Guess if anything I would like to see a retrial to answer the many questions that are left out.
Just finished watching Concussion with Will Smith, this movie is by far the best i've seen in a long time. Will Smith is genius. should get a Oscar. If you're a fan of the NFL you need to watch this.
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