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If ATF goes where the drugs are, why does it matter who has them?
If the facts contained in the story are accurate, everyone should be outraged at their actions. I doubt most will be, though.
But it's really just business as usual in our justice system.
But currently this appears to simply be more evidence of the "covert Jim Crow" system that blacks still face
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I'm not right all the time but I nailed this one. I just tried finding this case but instead found a more recent case in Rochester where they duped a mentally retarded man in a similar fashion.
I am all for fighting terrorism but am a thousand percent against law enforcement creating these cases to make it appear they're doing a great job.
So now you are a mind reader ey? Dude take a deep breath and turn off Fox and Rush Limbaugh to come back to reality. Please.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventi…
The above RS article is from 2012 so I got hip to this four years ago.
Here is a NY Times Article
And that the idea that Nancy and Ron along with a bunch of white lawmakers, judges, police, etc all coordinated some racially inspired plot to destroy minorities was stupid.
And since you brought the subject up again I will ask the same question. If you think it was a racial conspiracy then what would these people stand to benefit ?
As far as that article the most shocking thing to me is that it seems more concerned that a disproportionate number of whites are not targeted. The whole idea of setting anyone up in this way should be a much bigger concern than what color they are.
I have little to no trust in any of our Gov. Agencies and their motives and this kind of thing has bothered me since I read about similar set ups with accused terrorists.
the investors in a privatized prison system stand to benefit a great deal , from a system that incarcerates a huge percentage of its citizens . just one off the top of my head . a lot of money being made from forced labour of prisoners by corporations , would be another .
a wise man once told me .... follow the money .
But if investors are looking to fill prisons, and the war on drugs is the way to fill prisons, that doesn't really explain the argument that blacks are being targeted and white drug users are being given a warning. I mean if the priority is to fill prisons for profit then do you really think these same people care what color the prisoners are ?
Also, if you believe that the purpose of the war on drugs and the hard sentences is to fill prisons and or destroy minority communities then you would have to believe that it is one hell of a well coordinated and transparent plot that has been supported by not only Presidents and their administrations, Congressman including black and Hispanic congressman, but thousands of others, Judges, Church leaders, state and federal lawmakers, etc, Again many who represent and are I believe have the best intentions of minority communities in mind. It obviously has not worked and has caused other unintended consequences. ( That is pretty much what Charlie Rangel said and he is one of the black Lawmakers from Harlem that pushed for hard senteces in the 70s ,
The claim that there is thousands of powerful lawmakers getting together to destroy black communities and put them all in prison because its profitable ? or they just don't like their kind ? Come on.
For sure problems related to all this will never get better until people cant stop exploiting it and get honest about it.
As for rational motive, that's a tough thing applying logic and reason to something as unreasonable and illogical as racial prejudices. One could argue that business owners would have never posted signs in their windows telling a segment of potential paying customers to stay away simply because of the color of their skin. The argument would be that greed would override any personal prejudice.
Obviously that didn't occur......
Wherever the most crime is happening is where you will find the most arrests. And if that's happening in areas where mostly black, or Hispanic, or white people live then that is who will be getting arrested. Its pretty simple.
I have been around some pretty blighted areas and there always seem to be a strong core of citizens that are trying to raise a family in a not so friendly family environment.
These folks lean on local LE really hard to do something about the caustic elements in their neighborhood.
Sadly they rarely get the same type of press coverage as the BLM.
When the local cops make sweeps the press will usually talk about the potential of racial bias and injustice.
Very little mention of why the cops picked that neighborhood in the first place.
Lots of interviews with bangers who say the cops F'd their stuff up for no reason.
Sad for the folks who are asking for help.
Sad for the people who are trying to help.
Pit Row
It triggers me when people like you tell others how they feel when you really don't have a F Ing clue on how they really think or feel but it doesn't stop you from making off base comments like yours.
Sorry you're butt hurt over my Fox and RL comments but just so you know my panties aren't in a wad like your's appear to be by your insinuation I'm influenced by shit networks. My reality is I haven't had a TV in over four years but keep on projecting.
Your comments about your response to aplman are more of the same BS that moved me to comment on your post in the first place. Let me give you a clue for no charge:
Please read this over and over and hopefully you'll see it is YOUR own biases and prejudices not aplman's RE and that's as if society hasn't progressed for black people since slavery, and its almost as if being pissed about it is satisfying for him.
No one is talking about slavery, no one has said this is solely an African American issue as Latinos are also subjected to the same discrimination from our archaic IMO drug laws and sting operations like the one I started the thread over.
Regarding "it's almost like being pissed..." that's YOUR perception and not reality.
To be clear I'm all for others doing what I'm doing which is expressing my opinion but DO NOT tell me what your think my motivations are or what you think me or anyone else is thinking or feeling.
Rush does pretty much what Green has done twice in this thread. Takes information then twists it to fit his narrative. REALLY WISH that fat F RL gone to prison over his OxyContin addiction but when you have money and aren't a minority things go much differently in our legal system IMO.
Look, for 100 years AFTER slavery was abolished, we still had government sponsored racism in the form of Jim Crow laws, we still had blacks being 'redlined' out of the opportunities to own homes, we still had huge disparities in our legal and justice systems that were institutionally tilted against blacks.
Why doesn't that piss you off?
That's the real question. Why wouldn't a rational human being be able to admit that we've stacked the deck against blacks for centuries, even long after we abolished slavery, and be furious at those that perpetrated these injustices?
There aren't as many more white people in poverty as compared to blacks as you might think. In pure numbers, there are more, but because blacks are roughly three times more likely to be below the poverty line it skews things quite a bit. Basically for every 10 white folks you arrest, 1 is going to be below poverty. For every 10 black folks, you'd find 3. So targeting blacks would be far more efficient if you were going to steamroll public defenders, and that's before taking into account the effect of wealthier family members helping out defendants.
I don't think you'll necessarily find the most arrests where the most crime is happening. It's possible, but it's certainly not automatic. I believe that you get the most arrests where the law enforcement agencies decide to focus, and that can vary due to many factors.
I'm all for arresting people committing crimes. I'm just as opposed to law enforcement entrapping people regardless if it is local yokels being busted for soliciting a prostitute that's actually a policewoman, John DeLorean being set up or the so called terror busts that actually originate with an FBI informant creating the situation then busting the dimwitted fools he entrapped.
Here is the USA TODAY article in question.
To the person who said the police go to where the crime is I hope you will have the time to read the article.
EDIT: I am against sobriety checkpoints and this Minority Report-ish BS stop and frisk stuff. I was born in the land of the free and the brave not a police state where one lives in fear. Pull me over if I am swerving but don't interrupt my flow by stopping me to see if I have been drinking and asking me where I am going.
I gave up trying to understand the "why" about two years ago and my life instantly improved. I choose to look at the "what is" and from our government's involvement in illegals drugs (opium during Vietnam, cocaine with the Contras and now record opium production in Afghanistan) and who it has impacted the most is why I'm the cynic I am.
I do admit big pharm's pain pill bonanza since 2003 has resulted in the heroin epidemic that is an equal opportunity life destroyer crossing all boundaries of race and culture instead of the usual minority focused laws like harsher penalties for crack than powder cocaine.
Guess that's progress in some warped universe the racial bias has been removed from the world of heroin.
Where has anyone made that claim? Come on
And again whether it is or isn't doesn't matter to those who are been locked up due to our draconian drug laws. They're in prison in some cases for non violent drug offenses and it makes no sense to keep these people incarcerated IMO.
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