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What are peoples recommendations and opinions.. My little boy can ride his peddle bike without stabilisers, absolutely loves his oset trials bike on top speed, breaks, starts, stops, stands up over the bumper ground. Today hes got a pw50 can reach the floor but not a full foot on the ground. Were going to get him to the practice tracks now hes ready, My question is... After one day hes already wanting it faster, for christmas.. What is the best next bike?! Reliability, not money wasters, speed, all round good bike to start the real tracks. (Turns 4 in september) unsure of racing ages aswell. New to the circit 
If he's struggling to touch the ground on a PW, you may need to wait for him to grow a bit for a faster (longer suspension travel) bike.
I tried to give a good view of my sons backround, age and ability to avoid silly question or nasty, rude comments and give people a good idea of how he rides and how capable he is.
I want my son to race and have a good shot at winning not get lapped on a slow pw but the "fast 50s"
Thanks
The Shop
Btw most tracks/series have a shaft drive class so the PW riders can be competitive.
Sure hope you don't have such a short temper with your kid.
I never .....
I didn't .....
Huh, sounds like you are to me.
KTM ,Cobra's , both, will either make a good mechanic out of you, or make you wish you'd never bought one.
Most serious 50 racers have two bikes on hand.
If he is almost too small for a pw I wouldn't put him on a bigger and much faster bike like a KTM or Cobra. Both of those are about 10 times faster than the pw. You may get him hurt. Ktmtalk.com has a forum for 50's if you want to speak with more specific people about 50 cc racing.
Good luck and as Gary Bailey says, "Sometimes you have to slow down to get faster!"
So you posted on different forums, each with different posters etc. In other words, a lot of different variables in play.
So many variables makes it almost impossible to determine why you got similar responses from other forums. At that point, a prudent person would start entertaining the idea of looking for a constant that would better explain why many attempts were no help. You are that constant.
"Why would I want to burst my sons dreams by telling him to stay slow". Kids at his age are egocentric. Meaning they have the inability to distinguish between their point of view and the point of view of others. Perhaps bursting his dreams are your dreams.
You were so quick in becoming defensive that there is no reason to believe that you havent acted the same way in other forums.
Furthermore, it's totally fair for someone to be concerened about your behavior, especially when a 3 1/2 year old is involved.
You, are the common denominator.
A lot if us in here can spot scenarios like this from a mile away. You got real answers from posters at a time where you wouldnt accept an answer until its the one you were looking for.
Pit Row
Yes clever clogs I posted on different forums, gold star to you!
I've took all comments and advice on bored considering my sons nearly 4 and can't read yes I will begin my sentences with I!
My sons dreams are my dreams NOT the other way round thanks. My dreams was to be a show jumper not a mx racer!! I can't even ride I geared bike I've never been on a track. I DONT KNOW I'd to why I've came with questions to here, you've replyied 3 times. Nothing atall of any value to me, you don't know what advise I take back and put to use. I wrote this when I was completly in aware of a lot of things now I've been out and spoke to other race mums an seen for my self and watched the little lads out on the tracks and herd the horror stories and fairy tale stories.
On the othe forums a dint have fucking wankers assuming they no me my son & the ways I'm going and what I'm apparently so obvious to be doing.
Don't waste your typing time and your 45 minute gaps between your comments like you've gone off to think of something to say.
Now the muppet is concerned about my behaviour with my son!?
Love the common dominator
As I mentioned above, be prepared to work on it. The air cooled engine is a bit more forgiving in maintenance , but clutches and stators are still a big part of how these bikes run.
Hopefully, the bike is in fairly good shape. I would never pay top dollar for a used mini. They tend to be used up if they are ridden much at all.
I paid $120 each for these two KTM 50's. A '00 Junior Adventure and an '04 Pro Junior.
The Adventure needed a new fuel tank and some tidying up. It ran good, but KTM used Morini engines for them. Parts are very hard to come by for them, as Morini is out of business. I had about $350 in this bike, including the purchase price. It also needed a new stator. Lucky my dealer still had one on the shelf.
The '04 was a different story. Was run hot, impeller failed, seized the top end, flaked the plating on the cylinder.
It required a new cylinder kit, water pump rebuild, clutch assembly, and stator before it made noise again. Then it was on to the tidy up. This one was a break even on re-sale. Had about $600 in it including purchase price. Let it go for $850.
Both of these were low hour bikes, maybe 10 hours on either of them. Original tires, grips.
They do not take continuous riding, abuse, without continuously keeping after things.
Just saying, if you buy a KTM 50 , especially one with a lot of time on it, my suggestion would be to buy a good service manual and every specialty tool needed to maintain the bike. Along with a spare clutch and stator ,for starters.
I could not get rid of these two fast enough.
Any info or comments much appriciated
All in all, the SX is a very high strung race bike. Just have to stay on top of high wear items to keep it running sharp.
As well as being kids bikes there was a big scene a few years back of adults racing these bikes so big strong parts are plentiful, they are way and I mean WAY more reliable than the KTMs and after 7 years of ownership I got my money back for it.
Get a Honda though don't be tempted by a Chinese copy....
As for racing I would re consider, I detest schoolboy/youth motocross, the parents yelling at the kids, the "I have spent all this money and you only finish 7th" mentality, the kids end up resenting the parents and getting out/away from motocross as soon as they can... By all means have a nice bike, get your son the latest kit, a nice helmet etc and take him practicing all the time while you sit in the sunshine and enjoy spending time with him, take photos of his beaming smile, let him make friends at the track that will last a life time and when he's old enough to make the desision for himself to race (around 15) then help him earn the money to buy his own bike and start racing.
You and he will appreciate it all the more in my opinion.
Worked for me and I'm still racing at 38, I still speak to people I have know for 30+ years and it's working again for my son who is 14 in August and a decent little rider, he and I have NEVER fallen out over motocross and he is now on an adult bike and starting to get really keen to race so next year I think he will, when as a young man he will understand the danger and responsibility that comes with racing motorcycles.
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