Dr in Bicycle road rage case guilty.

huck wrote: If you rear end another car, it's your fault for following too close. I agree this guy was a dick head for doing that, but why were they following so close?

brainbasket wrote: There's links to the trial summaries there that say the driver swooped in front of them and slammed on the brakes to cause them to crash into his car.
If it was a tailgating case they couldn't have convicted him, but he admitted to trying to "teach them a lesson" by getting in front of them and slamming on the brakes.

Insurance scammers do the same thing with their cars to big trucks to get 'slam dunk rear ender' settlements from trucking companies. Difference being, unlike the driver of the car in this story - at least the scammers have some skin in the game when they get whacked by a truck. ...

brainbasket wrote: There's links to the trial summaries there that say the driver swooped in front of them and slammed on the brakes to cause them to crash into his car.
If it was a tailgating case they couldn't have convicted him, but he admitted to trying to "teach them a lesson" by getting in front of them and slamming on the brakes.

Insurance scammers do the same thing with their cars to big trucks to get 'slam dunk rear ender' settlements from trucking companies. Difference being, unlike the driver of the car in this story - at least the scammers have some skin in the game when they get whacked by a truck. ...

crowe176 wrote: Is riding 3 abreast even legal? Can't see how it would be if they have the same right to the road as a car.

crowe176 wrote: Is riding 3 abreast even legal? Can't see how it would be if they have the same right to the road as a car.

zookrider62! wrote: In my hometown we have bicycle paths all across town, yet for some reason everyone on bikes insist on riding through traffic. Cant understand how they feel they have the same rights when theyre going 20 mph slower then traffic. If youre in a car, you would get a ticket, why shouldnt cyclist?

zookrider62! wrote: In my hometown we have bicycle paths all across town, yet for some reason everyone on bikes insist on riding through traffic. Cant understand how they feel they have the same rights when theyre going 20 mph slower then traffic. If youre in a car, you would get a ticket, why shouldnt cyclist?

noob wrote: The extra 30 seconds it takes to pass a cyclist safely is worth complaining about?

Awesome.

noob wrote: The extra 30 seconds it takes to pass a cyclist safely is worth complaining about?

Awesome.

fcr wrote: This case kind of points out a major problem with our society. That is, we have become extremely selfish, pretty much everyman for himself attitude. The Dr is an ass, the cyclists are also selfish in that they insist on their right to use the road at the expense of everyone else, even if it holds up traffic. No one follows the rules anymore or has their own interpretation and everyone else is wrong. The Doc took it to an extreme and he is going to pay for it, I heard he could get up to 10 years. The cyclists do not understand physics either, it wins in the end.

fcr wrote: This case kind of points out a major problem with our society. That is, we have become extremely selfish, pretty much everyman for himself attitude. The Dr is an ass, the cyclists are also selfish in that they insist on their right to use the road at the expense of everyone else, even if it holds up traffic. No one follows the rules anymore or has their own interpretation and everyone else is wrong. The Doc took it to an extreme and he is going to pay for it, I heard he could get up to 10 years. The cyclists do not understand physics either, it wins in the end.

dougie wrote: There's idiots in cars and idiots on bikes. Humans can be idiots. Bicyclist do have every right to be on the road and cars "should" give them a wide berth. Bicyclist "should" use their heads for something besides a place to hang their helmets. A bicyclist may be right in establishing himself in a lane but whats the use of being "dead right"?

I see lots of dumb stuff out where I live. Heres a "werid" one that happened to me the other day. Im in my truck, on a 2 lane country road, speed about 45 mph. I come to a large "S' turn in the road. I start around the bend and as I do I notice a couple of cars are heading towards me in the opposite lane. But what catches my attention is they are both pulling into my lane (on coming) so that they can give a wide berth to two bicyclist who are doing their best to ride on the very outside of the asphalt but the road edge is pretty bad and there is no bike lane. Normally Id just get over to my right as much as possible to give the oncoming cars plenty of room. But this time Id need to put my right side wheels in the dirt to facilitate this....still not a real big deal except that on my shoulder of the road were two women walking towards me. So now I have 3 options and 3 nano seconds to make a choice. 1. I can have a head on collision with the cars. 2 I can save my life and take the lives of the two women as I make them hood ornaments or 3. I can jump on the binders and hope I can stop in time. I opted for #3 and the oncoming cars swooped back into their lane at the last moment.

What "should" have happened but almost never does is the drivers coming up behind the bicyclist should have slowed down to the speed the bikes were going and followed them around the turn until it was safe to pass. But what almost always happens is the car driver will usually give a little room and even swerve to their left but will almost never slow any at all and usually seem to just try to squeeze thru and thread the needle.

It just shows how impatient a spieces we are. To the point of taking chances and doing dumb shit. Including riding bicycles on roads that put said riders life in danger.

TG130 wrote: I had a similar thing happen to me a while back. It was on a twisty mountain road that is heavily traveled on weekends and flooded with asshole bike riders that come in from the big cities near here.

I came around a blind curve to find a car coming in the opposite direction at me head on in my lane that was passing a couple of idiot cyclists who had picked that particular curve to take a water break in the middle of the road. How smart is that ? Taking a water break in the middle of a narrow, heavily traveled mountain road on a blind curve. If these idiots would have ridden up the road another 50 yards, there is a nice safe spot for them to take their water break.

Luckily there was a good sized shoulder on my side and I just swerved off onto it.

There's plenty of good safe places to ride around here, but these dumbasses always seem to choose these areas where it's neither safe nor practical. And they're very arrogant about it too.

TG130 wrote: I had a similar thing happen to me a while back. It was on a twisty mountain road that is heavily traveled on weekends and flooded with asshole bike riders that come in from the big cities near here.

I came around a blind curve to find a car coming in the opposite direction at me head on in my lane that was passing a couple of idiot cyclists who had picked that particular curve to take a water break in the middle of the road. How smart is that ? Taking a water break in the middle of a narrow, heavily traveled mountain road on a blind curve. If these idiots would have ridden up the road another 50 yards, there is a nice safe spot for them to take their water break.

Luckily there was a good sized shoulder on my side and I just swerved off onto it.

There's plenty of good safe places to ride around here, but these dumbasses always seem to choose these areas where it's neither safe nor practical. And they're very arrogant about it too.

09450f wrote: another good trick is too throw some oil in front of those arrogant bastards

that'll slow them down

09450f wrote: another good trick is too throw some oil in front of those arrogant bastards

that'll slow them down

super rat wrote: Knowing how many ass hole lazy fucks are driving on the roads my road bike rarely gets off the bike paths.

super rat wrote: Knowing how many ass hole lazy fucks are driving on the roads my road bike rarely gets off the bike paths.

super rat wrote: Knowing how many ass hole lazy fucks are driving on the roads my road bike rarely gets off the bike paths.

GIwasB4 wrote: That's why they make bike path's, correct?

GIwasB4 wrote: That's why they make bike path's, correct?

super rat wrote: Sometimes it helps if you sound it out slowly, give it a try.


road bike

super rat wrote: Sometimes it helps if you sound it out slowly, give it a try.


road bike

fencepost wrote: I usually ride alone and like to anyway. I do ride with guys who sometimes ride three together side by side. I don't get it. If you do that you are asking for death or injuries. People in general think they own the street they ride or drive on. I do not assume i have the same rights as cars. I think it keeps me safe to not trust them. Most people suck at driving anyway.

fencepost wrote: I usually ride alone and like to anyway. I do ride with guys who sometimes ride three together side by side. I don't get it. If you do that you are asking for death or injuries. People in general think they own the street they ride or drive on. I do not assume i have the same rights as cars. I think it keeps me safe to not trust them. Most people suck at driving anyway.

super rat wrote: Knowing how many ass hole lazy fucks are driving on the roads my road bike rarely gets off the bike paths.

GIwasB4 wrote: That's why they make bike path's, correct?

MX Dad #27 wrote: You can't train for ROAD rides (centuries, RAGBRAI, Charity rides etc.) on a bike path they have little or no elevation change.

MX Dad #27 wrote: You can't train for ROAD rides (centuries, RAGBRAI, Charity rides etc.) on a bike path they have little or no elevation change.

MX Dad #27 wrote: You can't train for ROAD rides (centuries, RAGBRAI, Charity rides etc.) on a bike path they have little or no elevation change.

Cygnus wrote: They do here. And in California they do. The problem here is the goatheads on the bike paths.

Cygnus wrote: They do here. And in California they do. The problem here is the goatheads on the bike paths.

MX Dad #27 wrote: You can't train for ROAD rides (centuries, RAGBRAI, Charity rides etc.) on a bike path they have little or no elevation change.

Cygnus wrote: They do here. And in California they do. The problem here is the goatheads on the bike paths.

MX Dad #27 wrote: In Iowa most of our trails are "Rails to Trails" = FLAT.

MX Dad #27 wrote: In Iowa most of our trails are "Rails to Trails" = FLAT.

88sdad wrote: If bikes and cars are equal on the road, should the bikes have to be registered, so they can help pay for the roads/ bike lanes?

88sdad wrote: If bikes and cars are equal on the road, should the bikes have to be registered, so they can help pay for the roads/ bike lanes?

88sdad wrote: If bikes and cars are equal on the road, should the bikes have to be registered, so they can help pay for the roads/ bike lanes?

GIwasB4 wrote: Yes, they should.

GIwasB4 wrote: Yes, they should.