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zookrider62! Posts: 1715 Joined: 12/22/2008 Location: PLANO, TX	10/26/2009 5:57 AM Hank_Thrill wrote: Dude, no responses to my theories? Hank_Thrill wrote: Dude, no responses to my theories? zookrider62! wrote: I think they are correct Quote Last Post Only zookrider62! wrote: I think they are correct Quote Last Post Only I think they are correct Tbteam "Son, WHAT THE FUCK?"
Tbteam Posts: 499 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL	10/26/2009 7:25 AM Tbteam wrote: As far as the "C class" comments... I was at a bunch of races back then, and was lucky enough to be at some of the Team Honda practice sessions (it wasn't as "public'" as it is now) and to see those guys ride was no "C class" experience. They screamed those 250's around a track. The only limits to putting in faster laps were the suspension, and the fact that the tracks were not "engineered" so that every jump face set you up for a perfect landing, and every rhythm section was perfectly timed and balanced so that you could do it with your eyes closed. I wish I could go back in time and watch practice at Daytona around 1985. The roughest, most flow-proof tracks ever, and these guys were PEGGED all the way around. Tbteam wrote: As far as the "C class" comments... I was at a bunch of races back then, and was lucky enough to be at some of the Team Honda practice sessions (it wasn't as "public'" as it is now) and to see those guys ride was no "C class" experience. They screamed those 250's around a track. The only limits to putting in faster laps were the suspension, and the fact that the tracks were not "engineered" so that every jump face set you up for a perfect landing, and every rhythm section was perfectly timed and balanced so that you could do it with your eyes closed. I wish I could go back in time and watch practice at Daytona around 1985. The roughest, most flow-proof tracks ever, and these guys were PEGGED all the way around. Quote Last Post Only As far as the "C class" comments... I was at a bunch of races back then, and was lucky enough to be at some of the Team Honda practice sessions (it wasn't as "public'" as it is now) and to see those guys ride was no "C class" experience. They screamed those 250's around a track. The only limits to putting in faster laps were the suspension, and the fact that the tracks were not "engineered" so that every jump face set you up for a perfect landing, and every rhythm section was perfectly timed and balanced so that you could do it with your eyes closed. I wish I could go back in time and watch practice at Daytona around 1985. The roughest, most flow-proof tracks ever, and these guys were PEGGED all the way around.
MOTOCOACH Posts: 119 Joined: 3/05/2009 Location: NEW CASTLE, PA	10/26/2009 7:44 AM MOTOCOACH wrote: I agree, Tbteam. what some of you don't seem to get is that motocross didn't just start with MC, RC and Bubba! It's called PROGRESSION, and every era has gone through it! Bikes and riders get better as technology develops the bikes. Let me give you guys and example: I'm good friends with Gary Semics (for those of you who don't know, he was the 1974 500 SX Champ, and factory rider for over a decade). Anyway, we still ride together on occasion, and let me tell you, he still hauls the mail! I've seen vids and pics of him in his heyday, and he was doing crossups and looking like a "C" rider, as some of you put it. Well, a few weeks ago we were at a friends SX track (and I mean SX!), and he was coming out of a corner to a ten foot high 60 foot blind double with no run, seat bouncing it and kissing the backside lap after lap, as well as killing the rest of the track! Couple fast guys there had trouble keeping up with him, so back off the "old" dudes. My point is, he has adapted to the "newer" version of the sport over the years, and he's been racing since the late 60's! Some of you would benefit greatly from watching "World's Greatest Supercross Races" collection on dvd. google it, buy it, and learn a little about the sport you love! MOTOCOACH wrote: I agree, Tbteam. what some of you don't seem to get is that motocross didn't just start with MC, RC and Bubba! It's called PROGRESSION, and every era has gone through it! Bikes and riders get better as technology develops the bikes. Let me give you guys and example: I'm good friends with Gary Semics (for those of you who don't know, he was the 1974 500 SX Champ, and factory rider for over a decade). Anyway, we still ride together on occasion, and let me tell you, he still hauls the mail! I've seen vids and pics of him in his heyday, and he was doing crossups and looking like a "C" rider, as some of you put it. Well, a few weeks ago we were at a friends SX track (and I mean SX!), and he was coming out of a corner to a ten foot high 60 foot blind double with no run, seat bouncing it and kissing the backside lap after lap, as well as killing the rest of the track! Couple fast guys there had trouble keeping up with him, so back off the "old" dudes. My point is, he has adapted to the "newer" version of the sport over the years, and he's been racing since the late 60's! Some of you would benefit greatly from watching "World's Greatest Supercross Races" collection on dvd. google it, buy it, and learn a little about the sport you love! Quote Last Post Only I agree, Tbteam. what some of you don't seem to get is that motocross didn't just start with MC, RC and Bubba! It's called PROGRESSION, and every era has gone through it! Bikes and riders get better as technology develops the bikes. Let me give you guys and example: I'm good friends with Gary Semics (for those of you who don't know, he was the 1974 500 SX Champ, and factory rider for over a decade). Anyway, we still ride together on occasion, and let me tell you, he still hauls the mail! I've seen vids and pics of him in his heyday, and he was doing crossups and looking like a "C" rider, as some of you put it. Well, a few weeks ago we were at a friends SX track (and I mean SX!), and he was coming out of a corner to a ten foot high 60 foot blind double with no run, seat bouncing it and kissing the backside lap after lap, as well as killing the rest of the track! Couple fast guys there had trouble keeping up with him, so back off the "old" dudes. My point is, he has adapted to the "newer" version of the sport over the years, and he's been racing since the late 60's! Some of you would benefit greatly from watching "World's Greatest Supercross Races" collection on dvd. google it, buy it, and learn a little about the sport you love!
motomike894 Posts: 21 Joined: 9/06/2009 Location: WATERLOO, IN	10/26/2009 8:06 AM motomike894 wrote: That is awesome, I wish we had announcer like that now! motomike894 wrote: That is awesome, I wish we had announcer like that now! Quote Last Post Only That is awesome, I wish we had announcer like that now!
Moto East Mag Posts: 1451 Joined: 9/04/2006 Location: Arlington, VA	10/26/2009 9:24 AM MOTOCOACH wrote: I agree, Tbteam. what some of you don't seem to get is that motocross didn't just start with MC, RC and Bubba! It's called PROGRESSION, and every era has gone through it! Bikes and riders get better as technology develops the bikes. Let me give you guys and example: I'm good friends with Gary Semics (for those of you who don't know, he was the 1974 500 SX Champ, and factory rider for over a decade). Anyway, we still ride together on occasion, and let me tell you, he still hauls the mail! I've seen vids and pics of him in his heyday, and he was doing crossups and looking like a "C" rider, as some of you put it. Well, a few weeks ago we were at a friends SX track (and I mean SX!), and he was coming out of a corner to a ten foot high 60 foot blind double with no run, seat bouncing it and kissing the backside lap after lap, as well as killing the rest of the track! Couple fast guys there had trouble keeping up with him, so back off the "old" dudes. My point is, he has adapted to the "newer" version of the sport over the years, and he's been racing since the late 60's! Some of you would benefit greatly from watching "World's Greatest Supercross Races" collection on dvd. google it, buy it, and learn a little about the sport you love! MOTOCOACH wrote: I agree, Tbteam. what some of you don't seem to get is that motocross didn't just start with MC, RC and Bubba! It's called PROGRESSION, and every era has gone through it! Bikes and riders get better as technology develops the bikes. Let me give you guys and example: I'm good friends with Gary Semics (for those of you who don't know, he was the 1974 500 SX Champ, and factory rider for over a decade). Anyway, we still ride together on occasion, and let me tell you, he still hauls the mail! I've seen vids and pics of him in his heyday, and he was doing crossups and looking like a "C" rider, as some of you put it. Well, a few weeks ago we were at a friends SX track (and I mean SX!), and he was coming out of a corner to a ten foot high 60 foot blind double with no run, seat bouncing it and kissing the backside lap after lap, as well as killing the rest of the track! Couple fast guys there had trouble keeping up with him, so back off the "old" dudes. My point is, he has adapted to the "newer" version of the sport over the years, and he's been racing since the late 60's! Some of you would benefit greatly from watching "World's Greatest Supercross Races" collection on dvd. google it, buy it, and learn a little about the sport you love! Moto East Mag wrote: It's unbelievable the way Gary rides. He's in his 50s and just looks like a teenage A Classer out there. I think Gary's "Evolution of Motocross" should be required viewing. As for Holly and those guys- it's apples and oranges to compare to the bikes and track of today. Those guys were ironmen. Quote Last Post Only Moto East Mag wrote: It's unbelievable the way Gary rides. He's in his 50s and just looks like a teenage A Classer out there. I think Gary's "Evolution of Motocross" should be required viewing. As for Holly and those guys- it's apples and oranges to compare to the bikes and track of today. Those guys were ironmen. Quote Last Post Only It's unbelievable the way Gary rides. He's in his 50s and just looks like a teenage A Classer out there. I think Gary's "Evolution of Motocross" should be required viewing. As for Holly and those guys- it's apples and oranges to compare to the bikes and track of today. Those guys were ironmen. Moto East Mag "Hello...you've reached the Weeges."
thefactorypilot Posts: 47 Joined: 1/28/2009 Location: OWASSO, OK	10/26/2009 10:15 AM thefactorypilot wrote: HAHAHA... "He's all over Kehoe like a Krishna on an airport traveler!"... GOTTA LOVE THAT ANNOUNCER! thefactorypilot wrote: HAHAHA... "He's all over Kehoe like a Krishna on an airport traveler!"... GOTTA LOVE THAT ANNOUNCER! Quote Last Post Only HAHAHA... "He's all over Kehoe like a Krishna on an airport traveler!"... GOTTA LOVE THAT ANNOUNCER!
Matthes Posts: 194 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: ,	10/26/2009 10:22 AM Matthes wrote: On a podcast I did with Weege, we were kinda making fun of the older guys and I guess Wardy was listening (he did say that he listened to them.) So on his podcast, Ward kind of explained the differences between the older dudes and nowadays. As usual, his explanation made a lot of sense. Take a listen! Matthes wrote: On a podcast I did with Weege, we were kinda making fun of the older guys and I guess Wardy was listening (he did say that he listened to them.) So on his podcast, Ward kind of explained the differences between the older dudes and nowadays. As usual, his explanation made a lot of sense. Take a listen! Quote Last Post Only On a podcast I did with Weege, we were kinda making fun of the older guys and I guess Wardy was listening (he did say that he listened to them.) So on his podcast, Ward kind of explained the differences between the older dudes and nowadays. As usual, his explanation made a lot of sense. Take a listen! "Matthes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant in the pits. No one under 30 with a National point is willing to talk to him these days. The observations became opinions and now he's fucked in the paddock."
Tbteam Posts: 499 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL	10/26/2009 11:13 AM Tbteam wrote: How about a link? Tbteam wrote: How about a link? Quote Last Post Only How about a link?
E-man811 Posts: 23 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: ,	10/26/2009 2:10 PM E-man811 wrote: Here you go. http://racerx.vo.llnwd.net/...0090827_ward_pod.mp3 Long... and worth every word. E-man811 wrote: Here you go. http://racerx.vo.llnwd.net/...0090827_ward_pod.mp3 Long... and worth every word. Quote Last Post Only Here you go. http://racerx.vo.llnwd.net/...0090827_ward_pod.mp3 Long... and worth every word.
mxrose3 Posts: 799 Joined: 8/17/2006 Location: Delmar, DE	10/26/2009 2:28 PM mxrose3 wrote: Motocross is still evolving. You have to realize that in 1988, most people didn't even know what a 'scrub' was, so they just flew over a jump the fastest way they knew how - straight - which is what you see a lot of in that video (which makes them look like C riders). I'm pretty sure they were going through turns almost as fast as today's pro's. In 20 years, somebody will come up with something else to make Stewart look like a novice. mxrose3 wrote: Motocross is still evolving. You have to realize that in 1988, most people didn't even know what a 'scrub' was, so they just flew over a jump the fastest way they knew how - straight - which is what you see a lot of in that video (which makes them look like C riders). I'm pretty sure they were going through turns almost as fast as today's pro's. In 20 years, somebody will come up with something else to make Stewart look like a novice. Quote Last Post Only Motocross is still evolving. You have to realize that in 1988, most people didn't even know what a 'scrub' was, so they just flew over a jump the fastest way they knew how - straight - which is what you see a lot of in that video (which makes them look like C riders). I'm pretty sure they were going through turns almost as fast as today's pro's. In 20 years, somebody will come up with something else to make Stewart look like a novice.
bvm111 Posts: 448 Joined: 7/01/2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV	10/26/2009 4:54 PM bvm111 wrote: just look at that track... all the whoops were different heights and spaced different, the forks were 43mm standards and FLEXED like bamboo in the wind.... it took true skill to ride that with any sort of flow, wardy, RJ and the rest were simply amazing and I think they could still go just as fast on these "excite bike" enspired tracks with sculped sections that lend themselves to modern riding techniques. bvm111 wrote: just look at that track... all the whoops were different heights and spaced different, the forks were 43mm standards and FLEXED like bamboo in the wind.... it took true skill to ride that with any sort of flow, wardy, RJ and the rest were simply amazing and I think they could still go just as fast on these "excite bike" enspired tracks with sculped sections that lend themselves to modern riding techniques. Quote Last Post Only just look at that track... all the whoops were different heights and spaced different, the forks were 43mm standards and FLEXED like bamboo in the wind.... it took true skill to ride that with any sort of flow, wardy, RJ and the rest were simply amazing and I think they could still go just as fast on these "excite bike" enspired tracks with sculped sections that lend themselves to modern riding techniques. OK, GOT IT...I'm a NOOB...and I will STFU!
Blake Posts: 372 Joined: 9/11/2009 Location: HESPERIA, CA	10/26/2009 5:32 PM Blake wrote: Old guys aren't that slow today. Take when MC "came back" . He wasn't really off the pace at all considering he doesn't really need to hang it out to prove a damn thing. Blake wrote: Old guys aren't that slow today. Take when MC "came back" . He wasn't really off the pace at all considering he doesn't really need to hang it out to prove a damn thing. Quote Last Post Only Old guys aren't that slow today. Take when MC "came back" . He wasn't really off the pace at all considering he doesn't really need to hang it out to prove a damn thing.
calimxer91 Posts: 2612 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: WGAF,	10/26/2009 8:25 PM Edited Date/Time: 10/26/2009 8:26 PM calimxer91 wrote: If someone made some "retro vids " prob make a lot of dough.Hardly ever saw Holley do that stuff. ocscottie wrote: I thought every real moto fan already had this: http://www.bestbuy.com/...duct&cp=1&id=1505121 roosty wrote: I just ordered that video. Thanks scottie! Although I got my copy for $8.47 including shipping. ocscottie wrote: I thought every real moto fan already had this: http://www.bestbuy.com/...duct&cp=1&id=1505121 roosty wrote: I just ordered that video. Thanks scottie! Although I got my copy for $8.47 including shipping. calimxer91 wrote: I will be getting that as well.Thanks OC. Quote Last Post Only calimxer91 wrote: I will be getting that as well.Thanks OC. Quote Last Post Only I will be getting that as well.Thanks OC.
jmc2 Posts: 380 Joined: 8/15/2006 Location: Gilbert, AZ	11/3/2009 5:01 PM calimxer91 wrote: If someone made some "retro vids " prob make a lot of dough.Hardly ever saw Holley do that stuff. ocscottie wrote: I thought every real moto fan already had this: http://www.bestbuy.com/...duct&cp=1&id=1505121 calimxer91 wrote: If someone made some "retro vids " prob make a lot of dough.Hardly ever saw Holley do that stuff. ocscottie wrote: I thought every real moto fan already had this: http://www.bestbuy.com/...duct&cp=1&id=1505121 jmc2 wrote: Just received mine today... One less xmas gift my wife will need to buy...thanks.. Quote Last Post Only jmc2 wrote: Just received mine today... One less xmas gift my wife will need to buy...thanks.. Quote Last Post Only Just received mine today... One less xmas gift my wife will need to buy...thanks..
toolie Posts: 28 Joined: 12/28/2008 Location: SIMI VALLEY, CA	11/4/2009 10:03 PM toolie wrote: Nice JOB on the heat race BUZZY toolie wrote: Nice JOB on the heat race BUZZY Quote Last Post Only Nice JOB on the heat race BUZZY Its all good ....... On this side of the fence.

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