who is truly the best in the world

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Edited Date/Time 9/27/2013 8:09am
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined

1. jeffery herlings
2. ryan villopoto
3. ryan dungey
4. antonio cairoli
5. eli tomac
6. ken roczen
7. clement desalle
8. kevin strijbos
9. james stewart
10. justin barcia
damn that was tough , i may change it but idk....
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zook11 9/21/2013 4:17pm
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I counted 7 guys on your own list who could beat Herlings.
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stewie94 9/21/2013 4:21pm
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zook11 wrote:
I counted 7 guys on your own list who could beat Herlings.
i said in your opinion..... opinion is an opinion no right or wrong & i was tempting to put villy @ the #1 spot but , i just see something in herlings that i just had to put him the #1 spot
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Derpin' DJ 9/21/2013 4:27pm
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I'd put Herlings behind Roczen, and Cairoli in front of Dungey
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stewie94 9/21/2013 4:32pm
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
I'd put Herlings behind Roczen, and Cairoli in front of Dungey
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Steiny 9/21/2013 4:49pm
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zook11 wrote:
I counted 7 guys on your own list who could beat Herlings.
7? I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
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ocscottie 9/21/2013 4:59pm
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Not having RV on the top of the list makes your list totally

...and i dont care whose opinion it is, its a fact.
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I think these are the top 5, and this is the order I would put them in....

1. Villopoto
2. Herlings
3. Dungey
4. Cairioli
5. Barcia

I feel Poto is the best in the world right now. The next four in my list are all interchangeable. Desalle is right there too, but the five I listed I feel could beat the others on any given day.... If the two series were merged, I feel the championship would be an absolute dog fight between Poto, Herlings, Dungey, and Cairioli.....

I guess I'm missing Kenny Roc and Tomac too, but in hindsight, I'd have to add those two cats in there some damn where....


There's some bad mudafuckers on both sides of the pond, that's for damn sure!
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J-law

1-10

Josh Hansen would be 11th
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RV, followed by a dead heat AC & RD. The rest not even in the same league.
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Skerby wrote:
J-law

1-10

Josh Hansen would be 11th
LaughingLaughingLaughing somehow i still get a chuckle at these replies...unfortunately LOL
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vlh 9/21/2013 5:11pm
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stewie94 wrote:
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined 1. jeffery herlings 2. ryan villopoto 3...
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined

1. jeffery herlings
2. ryan villopoto
3. ryan dungey
4. antonio cairoli
5. eli tomac
6. ken roczen
7. clement desalle
8. kevin strijbos
9. james stewart
10. justin barcia
damn that was tough , i may change it but idk....
were drinking when you made this list?
Lets look at this sober...poto is by far the best in the world.
Lets look at cairoli's record at mxdn against RD....RD wins hands down
Desalle and strijbos were not even close to js7 JB or even TC
Tomac would walk over almost everyone on the list.

Herlings is good but not that good...roczen would handle him easily.

This is my list
RV
RD
TC222
js7
JB41
ET
KR94
JH
TC41
BB4
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sozo 9/21/2013 5:18pm
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stewie94 wrote:
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined 1. jeffery herlings 2. ryan villopoto 3...
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined

1. jeffery herlings
2. ryan villopoto
3. ryan dungey
4. antonio cairoli
5. eli tomac
6. ken roczen
7. clement desalle
8. kevin strijbos
9. james stewart
10. justin barcia
damn that was tough , i may change it but idk....
vlh wrote:
were drinking when you made this list? Lets look at this sober...poto is by far the best in the world. Lets look at cairoli's record at...
were drinking when you made this list?
Lets look at this sober...poto is by far the best in the world.
Lets look at cairoli's record at mxdn against RD....RD wins hands down
Desalle and strijbos were not even close to js7 JB or even TC
Tomac would walk over almost everyone on the list.

Herlings is good but not that good...roczen would handle him easily.

This is my list
RV
RD
TC222
js7
JB41
ET
KR94
JH
TC41
BB4
Somebody more sane... thank you
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stewie94 9/21/2013 5:18pm
9/21/2013 5:18pm Edited Date/Time 9/21/2013 5:19pm
im seeing some nice responses thats ON TOPIC. clearly villy is the popular vote , if you disagree with my list or anybody else's list , its fine by me , its only a person's opinion
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Lefty Right 9/21/2013 6:04pm
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My own opinion and in reality they would all have to race the same championship series week in and week out to determine who's the best in the world.... Smile
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chrisbuehler 9/21/2013 6:29pm
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vlh wrote:
were drinking when you made this list? Lets look at this sober...poto is by far the best in the world. Lets look at cairoli's record at...
were drinking when you made this list?
Lets look at this sober...poto is by far the best in the world.
Lets look at cairoli's record at mxdn against RD....RD wins hands down
Desalle and strijbos were not even close to js7 JB or even TC
Tomac would walk over almost everyone on the list.

Herlings is good but not that good...roczen would handle him easily.

This is my list
RV
RD
TC222
js7
JB41
ET
KR94
JH
TC41
BB4
"Roczen would handle him easily." Were you drining when you made that comment? Roczen couldnt handle him easily whern they went heads up 2yrs ago, do you think JH hasnt gotten faster since then? As far as the list goes, you have to put RV and AC at the top for winning the premier classes and between the two RV is more dominant. Plenty of times differant riders were faster on a given day then Tony. How many times was someone truly faster than Villo? Dungey 2 or 3x maybe. Hey it's just one guy's opinion versus the next. To say someone is an idiot for their opinion because your OPINION is diff is silly. Wasnt talking about you, just in general. I honestly think RV and Tomac are the fastest in the world right now

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Gbizzle 9/21/2013 7:33pm
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I feel like expressing my opinion on the list here, outdoors moto only.
1. Ryan Villopoto
2. Ryan Dungey
3. Tony Cairoli
4. Eli Tomac
5. Ken Roczen
6. Jeffrey Herlings
7. James Stewart
8. Justin Barcia
9. Trey Canard
10. Clement Desalle
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ty159 wrote:
I think these are the top 5, and this is the order I would put them in.... 1. Villopoto 2. Herlings 3. Dungey 4. Cairioli 5...
I think these are the top 5, and this is the order I would put them in....

1. Villopoto
2. Herlings
3. Dungey
4. Cairioli
5. Barcia

I feel Poto is the best in the world right now. The next four in my list are all interchangeable. Desalle is right there too, but the five I listed I feel could beat the others on any given day.... If the two series were merged, I feel the championship would be an absolute dog fight between Poto, Herlings, Dungey, and Cairioli.....

I guess I'm missing Kenny Roc and Tomac too, but in hindsight, I'd have to add those two cats in there some damn where....


There's some bad mudafuckers on both sides of the pond, that's for damn sure!
I agree
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jeffro503 9/21/2013 8:02pm
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ty159 wrote:
I think these are the top 5, and this is the order I would put them in.... 1. Villopoto 2. Herlings 3. Dungey 4. Cairioli 5...
I think these are the top 5, and this is the order I would put them in....

1. Villopoto
2. Herlings
3. Dungey
4. Cairioli
5. Barcia

I feel Poto is the best in the world right now. The next four in my list are all interchangeable. Desalle is right there too, but the five I listed I feel could beat the others on any given day.... If the two series were merged, I feel the championship would be an absolute dog fight between Poto, Herlings, Dungey, and Cairioli.....

I guess I'm missing Kenny Roc and Tomac too, but in hindsight, I'd have to add those two cats in there some damn where....


There's some bad mudafuckers on both sides of the pond, that's for damn sure!
RMT wrote:
I agree
Totally agree with this right here. That list is really good as far as championships go. I think wild card top 5's and maybe even some wins here and there you kind of have to throw in Tomac and Roczen. I don't know exactly where I would put Herlings but it definitely wouldn't be in front of AC222 or RD for championships.
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Skerby wrote:
J-law

1-10

Josh Hansen would be 11th
Boom!
dirtworldmx 9/21/2013 8:14pm
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stewie94 wrote:
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined 1. jeffery herlings 2. ryan villopoto 3...
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined

1. jeffery herlings
2. ryan villopoto
3. ryan dungey
4. antonio cairoli
5. eli tomac
6. ken roczen
7. clement desalle
8. kevin strijbos
9. james stewart
10. justin barcia
damn that was tough , i may change it but idk....
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little fecker is.
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little...
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little fecker is.
He is barely younger than Kenny.
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little...
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little fecker is.
ocscottie wrote:
He is barely younger than Kenny.
2 months I think?

BTW Scottie....I just dumped a bunch of really cool pics in your MXoN's thread! By the end of next week that thread could be HOF material!
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ocscottie wrote:
Not having RV on the top of the list makes your list totally [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/09/21/32395/s1200_vitarded.jpg[/img] ...and i dont care whose opinion it is, its a fact.
Not having RV on the top of the list makes your list totally

...and i dont care whose opinion it is, its a fact.
No doubt!

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dirtworldmx wrote:
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little...
Looks about right to me...of course this includes the 5 point bump that Herlings gets because "He's only 16 years old!" or however old the little fecker is.
ocscottie wrote:
He is barely younger than Kenny.
Herlings (1994, Sept 12) 19 years old
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Has Kenny become slower since easily beating Herlings in 2011?
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RV
Dungey
222
Tomac
Herlings
Roczen


I think Herlings might have a little more "outright speed" than Tomac, but I think Tomac has speed for an entire moto and gets stronger at the end, Man Strength vs Boy Strength as Stanton would say
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stewie94 wrote:
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined 1. jeffery herlings 2. ryan villopoto 3...
currently! in YOUR opinion , who is the best in the world ( top 10) AMA & GP's combined

1. jeffery herlings
2. ryan villopoto
3. ryan dungey
4. antonio cairoli
5. eli tomac
6. ken roczen
7. clement desalle
8. kevin strijbos
9. james stewart
10. justin barcia
damn that was tough , i may change it but idk....
I'll bite...

1. Villopoto (for obvious reasons)
2. Dungey
3. Barcia
4. Cairoli
5. James Stewart
6. Tomac
7. Herlings
8. Canard
9. Roczen
10. Musquin

The only reason I put Herlings lower on this list is the fact that he hasn't shown what he can really do against a stacked field. He is fast, but...until he mixes it up on the big bike (whether in the GP's or AMA series), can't see putting him higher. Next year, could see Roczen moving up on my list. IMO he is that good...

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