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8/23/2015 12:32am
8/23/2015 12:32am
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8/24/2015 3:41am
Like Herlings has found out - a whip/scrub can be a good way for a rider to take himself down and out of the way of his competition, as long as they can all avoid hitting him ......
Is that what happened to Cooper Webb in the moto 2 ?
Is that what happened to Cooper Webb in the moto 2 ?
seems a little odd.
why not just say I scrubbed too hard and lost control and crashed.
Way different from Tomac's crash.
Problem is that if your not scrubbing and staying low, your gonna get beat so you can't say they shouldn't do it. Travis Pastrana at the red bull event showed what happens if you can't really scrub well. The dude just pins it, but he lost out to someone that kept the rear wheel on the ground longer.
The continued eveloution of MX thanks to Mr. James Stewart.
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championship from their couch...
"Man, once again, I was out pretty close to the front early on, which helped me get to the lead there," Tomac said in a statement. "Had a good little battle with Ken there and snuck around him. Then at that point I tried to stay on two wheels because this track is really, really rutted today. It can come up and bite you.”
Cheers to Webb for the man-up.
I'm becoming a huge fan of his. I know the stuff with Marvin rubbed a few the wrong way, but RJ, Hurricane and Bradshaw had that same cocky attitude and I was a huge fan of theirs also.
it seems from the posts I read here that others too have an odd trend like I have and see this scrub/whip thing the way Mike Brown does.
Just think clearly for a moment:
1. Cooper said he crashed because he scrubbed too much
2. The video of Tomac shows that he started a scrub and then crashed, both commentators immediately noted the crash was due to the scrub attempt.
And yet some fans still want to blame it on a hidden rut etc. Can you all not see that if Tomac had just ridden up the face of the jump with no intent whatsoever to scrub it.... he would simply have just flown over it a little higher but at least upright..... he may have lost about 1/5000 of a second by not scrubbing but he would be in the race and the USA would have been MXDN champions !!! Probably a dumb question to post here but I just know that some others will agree with the MXGP commentators
Pit Row
you are right, riders need to ride the way they want and take the risks they feel are worth it.
It is just I am 57 years old now and I hate seeing our young stars injured or seeing them fall due to something within their control
throwing big whips on the first lap while in the middle of a pack makes me nervous too
it just seems to me I do not remember so many riders getting injured back in the 70's 80's
i think this is my point: if a rider wants to risk a scrub, that is his right - if he falls due to the the scrub, he should just say so so it will be clear to all young riders coming up why the crash happened, but what I see often is when a scrub does cause an accident, neither the rider nor the press make any reference to it.
Add the additional element of how good and fast the bikes are now and you have a recipe for disaster. Many of the top riders are pushing it so hard now, they are constantly on the brink of disaster. Eli is a perfect example this year. At the beginning of the outdoor season, he was arguably the fastes guy in the world. For sure he was on this continent.
I don't think these guys necessarilly push any harder than the top guys from decades back, but the bikes are so much better now with much better suspension which allows them to jump obstacles that could have never been conquered back in the day. The modern tracks in the US seem to be set up now with many more extreme jumps as a result.
I'm not providing an answer, but it takes the fun out of things to some degree when many of the top riders are on the sidelines so often. To me, this is another thing that impresses me about Dungey. He is the fastest American at the moment, hands down (with the exception of Tomac of coarse) and he rarely crashes out. Would have been fun to see a healthy Tomac and Dungey go at it all summer.
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