promotofan --- roczen??

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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 3:02am
They gunna add him to the 450 list?
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2/12/2011 7:54am
He's there. #194.
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2/12/2011 7:56am
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
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500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
I would tend to agree with you, but I'm hoping he's going to at least make top ten.
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500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
I disagree

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500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
TerryK wrote:
I would tend to agree with you, but I'm hoping he's going to at least make top ten.
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps.
10th -15th if he stays up is my guess
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500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
flarider wrote:
I disagree
Friendly wager ?

$20.00 to your choice of charity . If he gets top 10 or better I pay, if he gets 11th or worse you pay ?
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500guy wrote:
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps...
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps.
10th -15th if he stays up is my guess
I'll bet you one Canadian dollar he makes top ten! Tongue
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2/12/2011 8:13am
500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
flarider wrote:
I disagree
500guy wrote:
Friendly wager ? $20.00 to your choice of charity . If he gets top 10 or better I pay, if he gets 11th or worse you...
Friendly wager ?

$20.00 to your choice of charity . If he gets top 10 or better I pay, if he gets 11th or worse you pay ?
Agreed
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500guy wrote:
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps...
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps.
10th -15th if he stays up is my guess
TerryK wrote:
I'll bet you one Canadian dollar he makes top ten! Tongue
Ill take that bet, thats like .04 cents american.
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500guy wrote:
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps...
I think the kid is an awesome talent, I think the increased competition and lack of experience will consume him, not to mention 5 more laps.
10th -15th if he stays up is my guess
TerryK wrote:
I'll bet you one Canadian dollar he makes top ten! Tongue
motoxxx599 wrote:
Ill take that bet, thats like .04 cents american.
Probably closer to a nickel
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2/12/2011 8:38am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2011 8:40am
TerryK wrote:
I'll bet you one Canadian dollar he makes top ten! Tongue
motoxxx599 wrote:
Ill take that bet, thats like .04 cents american.
flarider wrote:
Probably closer to a nickel
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2/12/2011 8:43am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2011 8:47am
TerryK wrote:
I'll bet you one Canadian dollar he makes top ten! Tongue
motoxxx599 wrote:
Ill take that bet, thats like .04 cents american.
flarider wrote:
Probably closer to a nickel
Actually, it's pretty close to par.

On 11 Feb 2011, 1.00 U.S. dollar(s) = 0.99 Canadian dollar(s), at an exchange rate of 0.9903
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2/12/2011 9:39am
500guy wrote:
He's going to get worked so I hope plenty of people pick him
flarider wrote:
I disagree
500guy wrote:
Friendly wager ? $20.00 to your choice of charity . If he gets top 10 or better I pay, if he gets 11th or worse you...
Friendly wager ?

$20.00 to your choice of charity . If he gets top 10 or better I pay, if he gets 11th or worse you pay ?
Being from Vegas I don't think I am going to take that bet because you have the house odds. Too much up in the air.

Lets look at the last race...
1. James Stewart (Yamaha)
2. Ryan Villopoto (Kawasaki)
3. Chad Reed (Honda)
4. Justin Brayton (Yamaha)
5. Trey Canard (Honda)
6. Andrew Short (KTM)
7. Ivan Tedesco (Kawasaki)
8. Kevin Windham (Honda)
9. Brett Metcalfe (Suzuki)
10. David Millsaps (Yamaha)
11. Kyle Regal (Yamaha)
12. Mike Alessi (KTM)
13. Matt Boni (Kawasaki)
14. Kyle Chisholm (Yamaha)
15. Nick Wey (Yamaha)

The smart money is he won't place in the top 5, I will take that bet with anyone.
For top 10 it will depend on the holeshot. Is he faster than Alessi? Probably,
Alessi went from 4th to 12th, So I doubt if he will go to 12th with a 4th in the holeshot.
Is he faster than Short, Windahm, Metcalfe, Millsaps. Well the last two have been inconsistant. So it depends on how they ride but then if you look sometimes Chishom and Regal will suprise you.

If he gets a poor holeshot, I don't think he can crack the top 10 but as we know, the holeshot is very important, especially for some riders. Look at Short. Last year when he was getting practically every holeshot, he placed well consistantly. This year he can't get a start to shoot himself, thus his results are lackluster. Hmm same bike Roczen will be riding, (but Roczen does have a weight advantage.) So a top 10 bet could be a push.
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2/12/2011 9:44am
If Canard could do it last year, I bet Roc can do it this year. Don't be surprised to see him up there if he gets a good start.
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Being from Vegas I don't think I am going to take that bet because you have the house odds. Too much up in the air. Lets...
Being from Vegas I don't think I am going to take that bet because you have the house odds. Too much up in the air.

Lets look at the last race...
1. James Stewart (Yamaha)
2. Ryan Villopoto (Kawasaki)
3. Chad Reed (Honda)
4. Justin Brayton (Yamaha)
5. Trey Canard (Honda)
6. Andrew Short (KTM)
7. Ivan Tedesco (Kawasaki)
8. Kevin Windham (Honda)
9. Brett Metcalfe (Suzuki)
10. David Millsaps (Yamaha)
11. Kyle Regal (Yamaha)
12. Mike Alessi (KTM)
13. Matt Boni (Kawasaki)
14. Kyle Chisholm (Yamaha)
15. Nick Wey (Yamaha)

The smart money is he won't place in the top 5, I will take that bet with anyone.
For top 10 it will depend on the holeshot. Is he faster than Alessi? Probably,
Alessi went from 4th to 12th, So I doubt if he will go to 12th with a 4th in the holeshot.
Is he faster than Short, Windahm, Metcalfe, Millsaps. Well the last two have been inconsistant. So it depends on how they ride but then if you look sometimes Chishom and Regal will suprise you.

If he gets a poor holeshot, I don't think he can crack the top 10 but as we know, the holeshot is very important, especially for some riders. Look at Short. Last year when he was getting practically every holeshot, he placed well consistantly. This year he can't get a start to shoot himself, thus his results are lackluster. Hmm same bike Roczen will be riding, (but Roczen does have a weight advantage.) So a top 10 bet could be a push.
OK, let's clear something up.

You can't "get a poor holeshot"
You can "get a poor start"

A "holeshot" is ONLY in reference to the first racer to exit the first turn, period.

There is no "second holeshot" there is no "poor holeshot"

You either get the holeshot or you don't, period.

Understood?
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2/12/2011 9:57am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2011 10:00am
flarider wrote:
OK, let's clear something up. You can't "get a poor holeshot" You can "get a poor start" A "holeshot" is ONLY in reference to the first...
OK, let's clear something up.

You can't "get a poor holeshot"
You can "get a poor start"

A "holeshot" is ONLY in reference to the first racer to exit the first turn, period.

There is no "second holeshot" there is no "poor holeshot"

You either get the holeshot or you don't, period.

Understood?
"OK, let's clear something up." Oh... are you the person in charge of the urban slang dictionary?
You can get a poor start, the start is the starting gate and is a point and time on the track.

You can have a poor mid moto position, which is a point and time on the track.

The holeshot (being an urban slang term) is the first person to get to though a designated point and time on the track. So you CAN get a poor holeshot IMHO. Sorry you don't agree and I will not argue semantics with you on a slang word that is not even in the webster dictionary.

Why don't you address my position that he won't make it in the top 5?
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2/12/2011 10:02am
No doubt that the extra 5 laps are huge on a bigger bike and the field is deeper. Top ten is gonna be a tall order. Hope the kid don't wack himself.
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2/12/2011 10:02am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2011 10:05am
flarider wrote:
You're wrong
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge of making definitions of words, not some liberal arm chair quarterbacking enthusiast such as yourself.
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2/12/2011 10:07am
If he doesn't plant his head into the ground, I think he'll do fine.
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flarider wrote:
You're wrong
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge...
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge of making definitions of words, not some liberal arm chair quarterbacking enthusiast such as yourself.
By the definition of the sports history.
This is the definition since it was coined in the sport.

A holeshot is defined as the first rider through the first turn.
There is no second holeshot, no third holeshot and no such thing as a bad holeshot.

Only one rider can get the holeshot, and that is the first racer through the first turn.
That is the definition and has been for decades
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2/12/2011 10:08am
flarider wrote:
You're wrong
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge...
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge of making definitions of words, not some liberal arm chair quarterbacking enthusiast such as yourself.
"liberal armchair quarterback enthusiast?"

Are you fucking serious??


HAHAHAHA......



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One of the biggest misconceptions I see on these boards are people aliening how someone looks on a practice track and thinking that's a gage on how they will do in an actual race situation.

A practice track is normally a little scaled down so the riders can get some quality time in, and work on their skill sets, with out being as much of a risk as a full blown supercross does. Another thing is that these riders put in thousands of laps on their practice track, and know them like the back of their hand. And last but not least, they pretty much have the track to them selfs, and no one is disrupting their line choice or breaking their rhythm.

I have a lot of respect for this young mans talent, and wish him the best.
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2/12/2011 10:18am
Malcom Stewart is number 9999

He must suck with that high of a number!

Woohoo
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If he gets into the top 5 I will be suprised, seeing how tough the 450's are this year. But a top 10 isnt far away at all.
Also 5 extra laps shouldnt be too hard for him, we run 40 minute motos in the GP's.
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2/12/2011 10:33am
flarider wrote:
You're wrong
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge...
Oh really? By whose definition? If I am going to be wrong, I would like to be proven wrong by someone who is actually in charge of making definitions of words, not some liberal arm chair quarterbacking enthusiast such as yourself.
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2/12/2011 10:34am
flarider wrote:
By the definition of the sports history. This is the definition since it was coined in the sport. A holeshot is defined as the first rider...
By the definition of the sports history.
This is the definition since it was coined in the sport.

A holeshot is defined as the first rider through the first turn.
There is no second holeshot, no third holeshot and no such thing as a bad holeshot.

Only one rider can get the holeshot, and that is the first racer through the first turn.
That is the definition and has been for decades
100% correct.
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2/12/2011 11:27am
flarider wrote:
By the definition of the sports history. This is the definition since it was coined in the sport. A holeshot is defined as the first rider...
By the definition of the sports history.
This is the definition since it was coined in the sport.

A holeshot is defined as the first rider through the first turn.
There is no second holeshot, no third holeshot and no such thing as a bad holeshot.

Only one rider can get the holeshot, and that is the first racer through the first turn.
That is the definition and has been for decades
TerryK wrote:
100% correct.
OK, I see your point, I may have misused the word "holeshot" in my last point. I stand corrected.

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