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I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last yearBob454 wrote: This x55, where are you guys pulling these pipe dreams from? Alessi won't even win a moto. He will get a few holeshots and throw out an anchor the size of a vw bug,
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You do realize that people with money throw perfectly good money at sporting ventures and teams all the time that they know upfront; lose money, will lose money, or have no hopes of making money, all in the love of being around athletes, having notoriety, and owning a team is a hobby to them. The NFL is full of them, Paul Allen for example, so is the NBA, and the English Premier League. It's what a lot of rich people do to have a hobby job outside their regular "9 to 5" day to day CEO functions of actual money making business. The Portland Trailblazers and the Rose Garden hemorrhage money, yet Paul Allen shows up at almost every game and buys whatever players he wants....even takes guys like Greg Oden over Kevin Durant but that's a different story for another day.DCL36 wrote: You would have to ask Mike Genova, and It's not an issue of how much it makes, it's a matter of good business sense. I seriously doubt Genova's going to throw millions into becoming a title sponsor of a top tier motocross team in this economy, the return on investment needs to make business sense.
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Ohhhh baby show me the money!!!fader418 wrote: I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last year
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This is very true...a couple of great examples:Sully22 wrote: You do realize that people with money throw perfectly good money at sporting ventures and teams all the time that they know upfront; lose money, will lose money, or have no hopes of making money, all in the love of being around athletes, having notoriety, and owning a team is a hobby to them. The NFL is full of them, Paul Allen for example, so is the NBA, and the English Premier League. It's what a lot of rich people do to have a hobby job outside their regular "9 to 5" day to day CEO functions of actual money making business. The Portland Trailblazers and the Rose Garden hemorrhage money, yet Paul Allen shows up at almost every game and buys whatever players he wants....even takes guys like Greg Oden over Kevin Durant but that's a different story for another day.
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he crashed out because he couldnt handle that pace.jbomx363 wrote: Puff Puff Pass.
Bob454 wrote: This x55, where are you guys pulling these pipe dreams from? Alessi won't even win a moto. He will get a few holeshots and throw out an anchor the size of a vw bug,
fader418 wrote: I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last year
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Those ventures are more than just hobbies, they create huge write offs along with all the notoriety they're tax shelters as well. There's almost always an angle with most of these guys they don't get to where they are by just pissing money away.DCL36 wrote: You would have to ask Mike Genova, and It's not an issue of how much it makes, it's a matter of good business sense. I seriously doubt Genova's going to throw millions into becoming a title sponsor of a top tier motocross team in this economy, the return on investment needs to make business sense.
Sully22 wrote: You do realize that people with money throw perfectly good money at sporting ventures and teams all the time that they know upfront; lose money, will lose money, or have no hopes of making money, all in the love of being around athletes, having notoriety, and owning a team is a hobby to them. The NFL is full of them, Paul Allen for example, so is the NBA, and the English Premier League. It's what a lot of rich people do to have a hobby job outside their regular "9 to 5" day to day CEO functions of actual money making business. The Portland Trailblazers and the Rose Garden hemorrhage money, yet Paul Allen shows up at almost every game and buys whatever players he wants....even takes guys like Greg Oden over Kevin Durant but that's a different story for another day.
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Wanna bet?Bob454 wrote: This x55, where are you guys pulling these pipe dreams from? Alessi won't even win a moto. He will get a few holeshots and throw out an anchor the size of a vw bug,
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exactly....so the same applies for MG....the mx stuff (loss if there is one) can be written off...so, if he wants to he could go big, just might have a bigger write off. when you have that kind of money it becomes a write off for a hobby that they can call a business, all because they simply want to....it's fun. I read an article recently (can't remember the publication) that asked....what do rich people do when they get uber rich? They buy a sports team NBA, NFL, MLB, or whatever, all for fun. They don't really go in expecting to make money, if they do great, if not oh well. Same could apply here on a much smaller scale….DCL36 wrote: You would have to ask Mike Genova, and It's not an issue of how much it makes, it's a matter of good business sense. I seriously doubt Genova's going to throw millions into becoming a title sponsor of a top tier motocross team in this economy, the return on investment needs to make business sense.
Sully22 wrote: You do realize that people with money throw perfectly good money at sporting ventures and teams all the time that they know upfront; lose money, will lose money, or have no hopes of making money, all in the love of being around athletes, having notoriety, and owning a team is a hobby to them. The NFL is full of them, Paul Allen for example, so is the NBA, and the English Premier League. It's what a lot of rich people do to have a hobby job outside their regular "9 to 5" day to day CEO functions of actual money making business. The Portland Trailblazers and the Rose Garden hemorrhage money, yet Paul Allen shows up at almost every game and buys whatever players he wants....even takes guys like Greg Oden over Kevin Durant but that's a different story for another day.
DCL36 wrote: Those ventures are more than just hobbies, they create huge write offs along with all the notoriety they're tax shelters as well. There's almost always an angle with most of these guys they don't get to where they are by just pissing money away.
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It's not a matter of a "write off". It's a matter of an appreciating asset rather than needing to show a positive return at all times.Sully22 wrote: You do realize that people with money throw perfectly good money at sporting ventures and teams all the time that they know upfront; lose money, will lose money, or have no hopes of making money, all in the love of being around athletes, having notoriety, and owning a team is a hobby to them. The NFL is full of them, Paul Allen for example, so is the NBA, and the English Premier League. It's what a lot of rich people do to have a hobby job outside their regular "9 to 5" day to day CEO functions of actual money making business. The Portland Trailblazers and the Rose Garden hemorrhage money, yet Paul Allen shows up at almost every game and buys whatever players he wants....even takes guys like Greg Oden over Kevin Durant but that's a different story for another day.
DCL36 wrote: Those ventures are more than just hobbies, they create huge write offs along with all the notoriety they're tax shelters as well. There's almost always an angle with most of these guys they don't get to where they are by just pissing money away.
Sully22 wrote: exactly....so the same applies for MG....the mx stuff (loss if there is one) can be written off...so, if he wants to he could go big, just might have a bigger write off. when you have that kind of money it becomes a write off for a hobby that they can call a business, all because they simply want to....it's fun. I read an article recently (can't remember the publication) that asked....what do rich people do when they get uber rich? They buy a sports team NBA, NFL, MLB, or whatever, all for fun. They don't really go in expecting to make money, if they do great, if not oh well. Same could apply here on a much smaller scale….
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I was talking to RV today and told him I'd pick MA to win Hangtown... He said, possible...fader418 wrote: I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last year
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i wouldnt bet against alessi to win hangtown, but its dungeys title to lose if he stays in one peice.Bob454 wrote: This x55, where are you guys pulling these pipe dreams from? Alessi won't even win a moto. He will get a few holeshots and throw out an anchor the size of a vw bug,
fader418 wrote: I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last year
dv12.com wrote: I was talking to RV today and told him I'd pick MA to win Hangtown... He said, possible...
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............until it bucked himBob454 wrote: This x55, where are you guys pulling these pipe dreams from? Alessi won't even win a moto. He will get a few holeshots and throw out an anchor the size of a vw bug,
fader418 wrote: I will bet you 500 bucks MA800 will win a moto. He has a damn good chance of winning hangtown. He was a second faster than anyone on that piece of crap last year until it bucked him. I think Dungey got 7th or 8th at hangtown last year
dv12.com wrote: I was talking to RV today and told him I'd pick MA to win Hangtown... He said, possible...
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bullshitmotokiwi wrote: If Alessi is gonna ever win the outdoors, its gonna be this year... Reduced competition, hes on a bike he likes.
MXBOY2661 wrote: Iol! Dirt knapper did i bother u? Iol! If im 12 im 1 12 yr old who could put your face in the back of your fucking head , with the heal uf my foot!
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why is this bullshit???? no RV, Reed, JS7, Windham, TC, Townley...........proven competitors that have beat him in the past.....
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Red Bull threw tons of money at NASCAR for a few years and failed to win anything big over there.nickm wrote: This is very true...a couple of great examples:
1- Ferrari only sold street cars so he cold go racing. The whole ppint of that companys street car program is to finance Formula 1 and to WIN.
2. The red bull family are HUGE racing fans. They want to have their name on everything that wins. By throwing huge dollars at every motorsport in the world they have been quite successful. They are not interested in making money off of racing, they just want to sponsor/own winning teams.
Tell me any one of us, if we had the resources to do so, wouldn't throw cash blindly at a team we believe would be #1 just because a) we want to and b) we can.
If you're trying to figure out a business logic, forget it - it doesn't exist. This is purely and emotional thing!
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No that would have been 2009. Even less competition, on the bike he likes, which was the best bike out there.motokiwi wrote: If Alessi is gonna ever win the outdoors, its gonna be this year... Reduced competition, hes on a bike he likes.
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Link to the official statement?fader418 wrote: Damn Bobby is right Stew is gonna ride a moto concepts Suz outdoors...
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hey Bobby, really interested in your response to this so I have an understanding of where you base your opinions.........facts or in your own words just "bullshit"...................motokiwi wrote: If Alessi is gonna ever win the outdoors, its gonna be this year... Reduced competition, hes on a bike he likes.
