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Denn700 1/30/2012 6:40pm
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I don't think TM's are legal in pro MX. I don't know about amateur .
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hondajoe401 1/30/2012 7:12pm
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I FOUND THIS LIST ON MXA 1. THE BIKE,S ALLOWED IN THE LITES CLASS CRF250 2008 -12,KX250F 08-12,KTM 250SXF 08-12,RMZ 250 08-12 YZ125 08-09 ? YZ250F 08-12 2. MX CLASS bikes allowed crf450 08-12, kx450f 08-12, KTM, 350 SXF ,450 SXF ,450XC 09, 450SXF FACTORY ED(dungy replica), Rmz 450 07-12 ? HERES THE KICKER YZ250 08-10 ? YZ450 08--12 why no new ktm 250sx ,or 11-12 yz 250 can any one confirm this or other info will help also what abouth the husky 449 ?

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Shawn142 1/31/2012 6:30am
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Your question is a bit to wide. Are you looking for manufacturer or specific models like 2-strokes? Euro brands except for KTM will be illegal. The only exception I could see to that would be Husky since they're making a slight US push.
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hondajoe401 1/31/2012 7:25am
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HERES THE QUESTION IS THE 2012 KTM 250SX 2 STROKE LEGAL IN PRO MOTOCROSS AND SUPERCROSS ALSO THE 2012 YZ250 sorry cant open pdf file for ama rulebook
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hondajoe401 wrote:
HERES THE QUESTION IS THE 2012 KTM 250SX 2 STROKE LEGAL IN PRO MOTOCROSS AND SUPERCROSS ALSO THE 2012 YZ250 sorry cant open pdf file for...
HERES THE QUESTION IS THE 2012 KTM 250SX 2 STROKE LEGAL IN PRO MOTOCROSS AND SUPERCROSS ALSO THE 2012 YZ250 sorry cant open pdf file for ama rulebook
Yes.....in the 450 class.
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hondajoe401 1/31/2012 7:41am
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list in mxa doesnt have any 2 stroke from2012 it shows yz250 2 stroke only 2008 -2010 allowed in 450 class it does list ktm 250 sx only said not allowed is this correct
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TerryK 1/31/2012 7:53am
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This is right from the AMA Pro rule book:

The following equipment list shows all motorcycles which are approved for Motocross / Supercross.
This list is provisional and additional manufacturers will be added as they are approved.
Motorcycles MX/SX Lites Motocross/Supercross
Honda 2006-2007 CR125R 2006-2007 CR250R
Honda 2006-2011 CRF250R* 2006-2011 CRF450R
Husqvarna 2010 TC250
Kawasaki 2006 KX 250
Kawasaki 2006-2012 KX 250F* 2006-2012 KX 450F
KTM 2006 125 SX 2006-2011 SX 250
KTM 2006-2012 250 SX-F* 2006-2012 450 SX-F
KTM 2011- 2012 350 SX-F
KTM 2009 450 XC
Suzuki 2006 RM 250
Suzuki 2006-2011 RMZ 250* 2006-2011 RMZ 450
Yamaha 2006-2009 YZ 125 2006-2010 YZ 250
Yamaha 2006-2011 YZ 250F* 2006-2011 YZ 450F
All 2006-2009 motorcycles previously approved and still suitable under the current rules for Motocross /
Supercross are eligible.
*Also eligible for the Supercross class
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GrapeApe 1/31/2012 8:00am
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So Yamaha didn't submit the paperwork for the 2011 YZ250?
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hondajoe401 1/31/2012 8:08am
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GrapeApe wrote:
So Yamaha didn't submit the paperwork for the 2011 YZ250?
thanks terry k that list is close does any one have the newest list from rule book bikes cant be older then 5 years so this list is a little out dated but gives me the answer kinda no 2012 yz 250 orthe 2012 ktm 250 sx
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TerryK 1/31/2012 8:42am
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GrapeApe wrote:
So Yamaha didn't submit the paperwork for the 2011 YZ250?
hondajoe401 wrote:
thanks terry k that list is close does any one have the newest list from rule book bikes cant be older then 5 years so this...
thanks terry k that list is close does any one have the newest list from rule book bikes cant be older then 5 years so this list is a little out dated but gives me the answer kinda no 2012 yz 250 orthe 2012 ktm 250 sx
That is the newest list, right from their site and it lists the 2012 models. Here's and idea, why not just ask the AMA for a list?
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35smom 1/31/2012 8:47am
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GrapeApe wrote:
So Yamaha didn't submit the paperwork for the 2011 YZ250?
hondajoe401 wrote:
thanks terry k that list is close does any one have the newest list from rule book bikes cant be older then 5 years so this...
thanks terry k that list is close does any one have the newest list from rule book bikes cant be older then 5 years so this list is a little out dated but gives me the answer kinda no 2012 yz 250 orthe 2012 ktm 250 sx
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That is the newest list, right from their site and it lists the 2012 models. Here's and idea, why not just ask the AMA for a...
That is the newest list, right from their site and it lists the 2012 models. Here's and idea, why not just ask the AMA for a list?
Cant be the list for 2012 as Joeys bike is a 2012 YZ 250f...and its not on the list. I believe its 2011 and KTM got their 2012 bikes in early.
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hondajoe401 1/31/2012 9:49am
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right from mx sports the yz 250 2 stroke years 2008 -2010 are allowed no 11-12s THE KTM 250SX ONLY 07-11 ARE ALLOWED AS OF TODAY NO KTM 250SX 2012 ALLOWED JUST WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS .

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Charles Bronson 1/31/2012 9:50am
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hondajoe401 wrote:
[b]right from mx sports the yz 250 2 stroke years 2008 -2010 are allowed no 11-12s THE KTM 250SX ONLY 07-11 ARE ALLOWED AS OF TODAY...
right from mx sports the yz 250 2 stroke years 2008 -2010 are allowed no 11-12s THE KTM 250SX ONLY 07-11 ARE ALLOWED AS OF TODAY NO KTM 250SX 2012 ALLOWED JUST WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS .
probably an old list man, i would not let that influence my bike purchase, especialy since the 12 Ktm went to linkage.
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OldYZRider1 1/31/2012 9:59am
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The AMA published a bulletin titled SX 2012 Approved Equipment List, dated 12/23/11 here: http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2012/buletins/amaracing_bulletin…. Does not list any KTM two strokes and no Husky's. It indicates its a provisional list but I don't see its been revised or updated on their webpage here: http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/index.aspx. The only Motocross list shown is still the 2011 list which appeared to have been revised to include the 2012 KX450F and 350 SX-F as posted above.
Charles Bronson 1/31/2012 10:06am
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sounds to me like KTM did not submit paperwork for their two strokes. I can't imagine them being not legal for any other reason.

wonder if it is intentional? i.e. KTM does not want their two strokes finishing ahead of their more expensive fourstrokes?
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
The AMA published a bulletin titled SX 2012 Approved Equipment List, dated 12/23/11 here: http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2012/buletins/amaracing_bulletin%20sx%202012_03%20approved%20equip%20list.pdf. Does not list [u]any[/u] KTM two strokes and no Husky's. It...
The AMA published a bulletin titled SX 2012 Approved Equipment List, dated 12/23/11 here: http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2012/buletins/amaracing_bulletin…. Does not list any KTM two strokes and no Husky's. It indicates its a provisional list but I don't see its been revised or updated on their webpage here: http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/index.aspx. The only Motocross list shown is still the 2011 list which appeared to have been revised to include the 2012 KX450F and 350 SX-F as posted above.
Yes for what ever reason they did not submit paper work for those 2 stroke models.
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aaryn #234 1/31/2012 12:17pm
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Charles Bronson wrote:
sounds to me like KTM did not submit paperwork for their two strokes. I can't imagine them being not legal for any other reason. wonder if...
sounds to me like KTM did not submit paperwork for their two strokes. I can't imagine them being not legal for any other reason.

wonder if it is intentional? i.e. KTM does not want their two strokes finishing ahead of their more expensive fourstrokes?
Come on Charles you can come up with a great conspiracy theory if you really wanted!!!!!!

Obviously KTM were told that the only way their Factory Addition KTM 450 Dungey replica would be allowed to race would be if they decided to not register there current two stroke rangeDry

Let the two stroke lovers feed Laughing
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I wasn't able to pull up the AMA Pro Racing Rulebook from amaproracing.com, but I'm sure the 2-strokes will be illegal very shortly. With them gone, then the OEMs are free to alter displacements for the 4s (i.e. from 450 down to 350).
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TerryK 1/31/2012 5:23pm
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35smom wrote:
Cant be the list for 2012 as Joeys bike is a 2012 YZ 250f...and its not on the list. I believe its 2011 and KTM got...
Cant be the list for 2012 as Joeys bike is a 2012 YZ 250f...and its not on the list. I believe its 2011 and KTM got their 2012 bikes in early.
It IS in fact from the AMA Pro Motocross 2012 Rule book PDF. I'm guessing thats correct because it says on the link: "AMA Pro Racing 2012 Motocross rule book"
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RACEGUY 1/31/2012 5:31pm
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burn1986 wrote:
I wasn't able to pull up the AMA Pro Racing Rulebook from amaproracing.com, but I'm sure the 2-strokes will be illegal very shortly. With them gone...
I wasn't able to pull up the AMA Pro Racing Rulebook from amaproracing.com, but I'm sure the 2-strokes will be illegal very shortly. With them gone, then the OEMs are free to alter displacements for the 4s (i.e. from 450 down to 350).
That might be amongst the most mentally retarded responses I've come across here in the Vital discussion board. Are you gonna hang yourself, or do you need some help.

Please stop wasting bandwidth when you have nothing intelligent to say.
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TerryK 1/31/2012 5:37pm
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burn1986 wrote:
I wasn't able to pull up the AMA Pro Racing Rulebook from amaproracing.com, but I'm sure the 2-strokes will be illegal very shortly. With them gone...
I wasn't able to pull up the AMA Pro Racing Rulebook from amaproracing.com, but I'm sure the 2-strokes will be illegal very shortly. With them gone, then the OEMs are free to alter displacements for the 4s (i.e. from 450 down to 350).
lmao, ya think? Illegal 2 strokes? I think not.
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Denn700 1/31/2012 6:28pm
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I want to know the list for AMA amateur nationals. I was told in the nma nationals bikes like TM's are legal but only in the mod classes.
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35smom 2/1/2012 6:42am
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Cant be the list for 2012 as Joeys bike is a 2012 YZ 250f...and its not on the list. I believe its 2011 and KTM got...
Cant be the list for 2012 as Joeys bike is a 2012 YZ 250f...and its not on the list. I believe its 2011 and KTM got their 2012 bikes in early.
TerryK wrote:
It IS in fact from the AMA Pro Motocross 2012 Rule book PDF. I'm guessing thats correct because it says on the link: "AMA Pro Racing...
It IS in fact from the AMA Pro Motocross 2012 Rule book PDF. I'm guessing thats correct because it says on the link: "AMA Pro Racing 2012 Motocross rule book"
Maybe they just forgot to update Yamaha and Suzuki to include 2012 on the site? Strange...

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