Your secret for applying graphics

HazemG
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Edited Date/Time 9/5/2014 7:39am
Do you prefer to take the plastics off the bike before applying graphics, or do you rather install them while the plastics are on the bike?

I just bought all new plastics and need to apply some.. I read somewhere that most pro wrenchers like to put them on while they are on the bike so they don't move, but i can't imagine it would hurt to be able to manipulate the plastics whatever way you would need.

Any other insight? I've never used to soap method, any one else a fan of it?
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9/4/2014 7:32am
I line em up several times to see what edges should go where and holes match up, then usually do them in my lap. I also use a hair dryer and heat them up as I apply them so they are very ply able.
9/4/2014 7:32am
Heat and patience

On bike is easier IMO as you don't have to fight the motion of the damn thing moving while applying
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9/4/2014 7:33am Edited Date/Time 9/4/2014 7:34am
Personally I take them off the bike soak the plastic with Windex, lay the graphic, use a hair dryer and my thumbs to push all the Windex out starting in the center and working out in a circle.
patients is a virtue lol
the Windex keeps them from sticking while you line them up
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HazemG
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9/4/2014 7:41am
joneal621 wrote:
Personally I take them off the bike soak the plastic with Windex, lay the graphic, use a hair dryer and my thumbs to push all the...
Personally I take them off the bike soak the plastic with Windex, lay the graphic, use a hair dryer and my thumbs to push all the Windex out starting in the center and working out in a circle.
patients is a virtue lol
the Windex keeps them from sticking while you line them up
How much windex do you lay down? Do you find they adhere just as well in the end?
9/4/2014 8:00am
joneal621 wrote:
Personally I take them off the bike soak the plastic with Windex, lay the graphic, use a hair dryer and my thumbs to push all the...
Personally I take them off the bike soak the plastic with Windex, lay the graphic, use a hair dryer and my thumbs to push all the Windex out starting in the center and working out in a circle.
patients is a virtue lol
the Windex keeps them from sticking while you line them up
HazemG wrote:
How much windex do you lay down? Do you find they adhere just as well in the end?
They will adhere when the windex dries. You can apply as much as you want, you just have to push more out. You can also use a water/baby shampoo mix (one or two drops in a spray bottle is plenty), it keeps it from sticking longer, which can be a good or bad thing depending on how it goes.

I have done the wetting the plastics routine but I just put them on dry now with a heat gun. Don't get crazy with the heat because they will melt. You can pull them up and maneuver them just don't do it too much right after you heat them because they will deform and stretch. If you get the vinyl too hot, give it a few moments before you touch it or you put a permanent finger print on it. Its all about patience as mentioned a few times already. Usually the exhaust side number plate is most difficult one to do (depending on the bike), but with heat and patience you should be fine.
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9/4/2014 8:06am Edited Date/Time 9/4/2014 8:07am
I order plastic with graphics installed by Decal Works. This is the best way I've found if you want to have hair on your head when your finished.
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9/4/2014 8:23am
Windex when I do it myself.

Usually just ship it to Decal Works. Saves me punching a hole in the wall.
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Cygnus wrote:
I order plastic with graphics installed by Decal Works. This is the best way I've found if you want to have hair on your head when...
I order plastic with graphics installed by Decal Works. This is the best way I've found if you want to have hair on your head when your finished.
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9/4/2014 8:28am
I use a mix of half windex and half water along with a heat gun. no problems just patience
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9/4/2014 8:34am
i do them on the bike, first a few dry runs just to see what goes where and how best to line it up, then i use a soap and water mix in a spray bottle, lightly coat the plastic you are going to work on, then slowly apply one corner first and remove the sticker backing as you start laying it down. Once its laid in place, for a short time you will be able to move the graphic around a bit due to the soap, but it dries fast, once its stuck, i use a blow dryer on low heat, and a squeegee of some sort, usually a credit card, and work out the bubble and edges being careful not to over heat the graphics. I can usually do a set complete set in about 30 - 40min.
9/4/2014 8:37am
water with a couple drops of dish soap and heat gun. last set i did came out perfect on the tank side of a yz85.

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9/4/2014 8:46am
Windex isn't good for the adhesive.

Clean your plastics with straight isopropyl alcohol instead. Windex has non streaking additives and other gunk added to it.

If you use a wet method for application all you need is water with a couple of drops of soap. Some people add a teaspoon of alcohol to the mix, but I've never noticed the difference. If this mixture can apply a 4' x 8' decal without air bubbles it can certainly work for MX graphics.

Heat is your friend as stated above. A heat gun is overkill for most people, a hair dryer on low setting is less likely to burn your graphics or melt your plastics the way a heat gun can. Some pros even use a propane torch because it heats up really quick, but it takes a very experienced hand to apply vinyl that way.
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9/4/2014 8:46am
Hot and wet Bro.... Hot and wet.
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9/4/2014 9:20am Edited Date/Time 9/4/2014 9:21am
just a little patience...yaaaa yaaaaa......hair dryer....I apply graphics while on the bike to get them to line up...never used windex or liquid...most important is clean the plastic with alcohol real good...

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9/4/2014 9:26am
i use blind dumb luck.... Blink
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9/4/2014 9:28am
Soapy water on a multi contoured surface with a thick ass graphic?

You people are sick, sick I'm telling you. Ain't nobody got time for that!Laughing


Dry with a little heat where necessary.
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9/4/2014 10:02am
Heat and patience

On bike is easier IMO as you don't have to fight the motion of the damn thing moving while applying
I agree that heat and patience is the key. However, I like to take the plastic off and press it down as flat as I can. Much easier to apply a flat sticker to a flat piece of plastic, resists creases and bubbles that way.
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9/4/2014 10:13am
I've never had any trouble getting radiator shrouds on...off the bike, on the bike...doesn't matter as long as I've got a hair drier close by.

BUT, the number plate on the right side (with the silencer) for the life of me I can't get that thing to lay flat...(I buy the pre-printed numbers and backgrounds). On the bike, off the bike...heat, no heat...wet, dry...doesn't matter...I'm going to butcher that number plate.
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For bike intros, I usually have to put them on the morning we get there in just a few mins, so we can start shooting. High pressure situation!!!!Laughing
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9/4/2014 10:17am
On the bike, Windex and some heat. Once it dries they are super solid.
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9/4/2014 10:33am
Ive done my own for years, and it does take a little practice.

When I can, i take a table outside and do it in the sunlight, makes the graphic so much more pliable.

I always take the plastic off the bike, you can move it around much easier that way.

Have windex , a credit card, a small plastic drywall knife, and a single edge razor blade on hand to pop the bubbles that you cant push out with the credit card.

Just take your time and always remember the glue on the graphics needs 24 hours to really set before they can be used.
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9/4/2014 10:41am
I have only done number plates but I do them on the bike and use windex like others have said. I use my halogen work lights to heat up the graphics and to keep heat on them while I work on mounting them. These lights put out a decent amount of heat over a decent area but are not that hot where I worry about damaging the graphics.

HazemG
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9/4/2014 11:16am
Idk if I'm going to try the windex deal haha.. I'd worry about not getting it all out from underneath the graphics
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9/4/2014 11:32am
HazemG wrote:
Idk if I'm going to try the windex deal haha.. I'd worry about not getting it all out from underneath the graphics
You dont have to get it all out, it evaporates.
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9/4/2014 11:36am
Brent wrote:
You dont have to get it all out, it evaporates.
That's what she tried to tell me one time, I wasn't having it!!
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9/4/2014 12:30pm
bvm111 wrote:
i use blind dumb luck.... Blink
Better to be lucky every day than great some of the time.
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9/4/2014 12:35pm
HazemG wrote:
Idk if I'm going to try the windex deal haha.. I'd worry about not getting it all out from underneath the graphics
You squeege it out and use a hairdryer... thought you wanted tips?
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9/4/2014 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/4/2014 12:58pm
Used to bother with soapy water and a hair dryer, but lately I've been throwing Em on while they were on the bike dry, no problems, just take your time otherwise it'll be a bubbly mess

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