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Let's say we have Bob, a middle class rider. We clone him and now have two Bob's both with the exact same riding skill and fitness.
We buy both Bob-A and Bob-B a new bike off the showroom floor. Each Bob gets $3k to spend on mods.
Bob A gets a pipe, silencer, head ported, reeds or cams - basically he spends it all to boost his HP.
Bob B takes his bike to a suspension shop and says I have $3k to spend. He leaves the engine bone stock . Get's a revalve, new spring - a custom $3k setup.
After a season, who wins? Keeping in mind they are clones. In other words, what is more important? Is OEM suspension good enough today? If so, why don't the Pro's use it - and why do all good riders seem to first spend their money on suspension mods, and not so good riders go and put a new pipe on?
Maybe the ex mechanics and better riders on here can let us know what is more important, and who'd they think would win that season out of the two.
We buy both Bob-A and Bob-B a new bike off the showroom floor. Each Bob gets $3k to spend on mods.
Bob A gets a pipe, silencer, head ported, reeds or cams - basically he spends it all to boost his HP.
Bob B takes his bike to a suspension shop and says I have $3k to spend. He leaves the engine bone stock . Get's a revalve, new spring - a custom $3k setup.
After a season, who wins? Keeping in mind they are clones. In other words, what is more important? Is OEM suspension good enough today? If so, why don't the Pro's use it - and why do all good riders seem to first spend their money on suspension mods, and not so good riders go and put a new pipe on?
Maybe the ex mechanics and better riders on here can let us know what is more important, and who'd they think would win that season out of the two.
My dad always said you don't need engine mods unless you can hold the bike wide open through every section of the track.
The Shop
450F: Suspension wins.
I simply using myself as an example. If my cloned self was on a hopped-up 250F and I was on a stocker, the engine mods would be the difference considering I weigh 175-180lbs. On a 450F, I can't use all of the power on the stock bike, so suspension would be the difference.
man i remember back in the day there was nuthin like the feeling of a new knobby on the back of my scooter. any cash left over goes to booze, babes and bong hits
"Is OEM suspension good enough today?"
No. OEM engines are fine as is with an exception of jetting. A few changes in gearing, spot on jetting, and a built suspension should get you by.
$3k is enough to get the best of both worlds
Head to Rynoland for a bootcamp!
Pit Row
BUT, if they where on 450's, (where the fuck did someone come up with 2T and 4T, wtf is T? shouldnt it be 2S and 4S?) I would say the guy that got the suspension done and it wouldnt cost 3k, maybe $500 tops.
Noone but the top 10~15% can use all that a 450 has. You might think you have the throttle to the stops, but majority dont. Motor is a none issue these days. Give him suspension setup for him and he wins hands down.
Then, afterward, Bob-C (now in much better shape) not only gets to keep the $3000, but he gets the girl.
As for the OEM suspension, make sure you check out an interview that will be posted shortly at www.racerxonline.com
IMO unless youre a fast b rider, motor mods are a waste, there is only about 3 people that post here that can even use all the power of a stock 4 stroke.
Todays suspension is good off the shelf, good enough for 75% of most riders. An oil change and the right spring rate will work wonders.
http://www.racerxonline.com/article/between-the-motos-kevin-windham-oct…
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