Yamaha/FMF exhaust spy photos

Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

Why don't they just turn the motor around and be done with it?

Crush wrote: Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

still sticks out a mile!!!!

Where does it stick out a mile? Muffler? it's as short as my stubby '09.
I looked the pics over and over...please explain to a dummy!

Highsider wrote: still sticks out a mile!!!!

Where does it stick out a mile? Muffler? it's as short as my stubby '09.
I looked the pics over and over...please explain to a dummy!

It sticks out a mile in the you-can't-make-everyone-happy, Yamaha-hater, and you-can't-buy-one-anyway section of it.

Bubba come back!

O cool , is that a built in sparkplug caddy on the head pipe , so trick , they think of everything.

watson wrote: Bubba come back!

He'll be back...but on a Yoshimura Suzuki.

Crush wrote: Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

Highsider wrote: still sticks out a mile!!!!

Where does it stick out a mile? Muffler? it's as short as my stubby '09.
I looked the pics over and over...please explain to a dummy!

Past the number plate... Seems like going that far around the engine it could be brought forward a bit...

Guy you need to stop picking people's posts... what we're not allowed to comment on something?!

Crush wrote: Past the number plate... Seems like going that far around the engine it could be brought forward a bit...

Guy you need to stop picking people's posts... what we're not allowed to comment on something?!

In that pic he's running the normal tornado set up, not the new wrap around arrangement. The muffler is brought in further than in that photo, thats at the "original" tornado muffler length

Crush wrote: Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

Highsider wrote: still sticks out a mile!!!!

Where does it stick out a mile? Muffler? it's as short as my stubby '09.
I looked the pics over and over...please explain to a dummy!

Crush wrote: Past the number plate... Seems like going that far around the engine it could be brought forward a bit...

Guy you need to stop picking people's posts... what we're not allowed to comment on something?!

The one in that photo is not the new one. That photo is for comarison to the other one.

Crush wrote: Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

Highsider wrote: still sticks out a mile!!!!

Where does it stick out a mile? Muffler? it's as short as my stubby '09.
I looked the pics over and over...please explain to a dummy!

Crush wrote: Past the number plate... Seems like going that far around the engine it could be brought forward a bit...

Guy you need to stop picking people's posts... what we're not allowed to comment on something?!

A little off topic but I'm digging that One Industries Color combo

It's apparently a new design from Yamaha

They are coming to grips that it was a flawed design? Wrapping it all the way around the watercooled cylinder is going to help? Get back to me when it hit 196 lbs. wet/no fuel and the exhaust tucks in properly.

jasonv43 wrote: Why don't they just turn the motor around and be done with it?

This^^^
I forget why they turned it around in the first place.

newmann wrote: It's apparently a new design from Yamaha

They are coming to grips that it was a flawed design? Wrapping it all the way around the watercooled cylinder is going to help? Get back to me when it hit 196 lbs. wet/no fuel and the exhaust tucks in properly.

If I had me one of them I'd be showing it off right now too.

jasonv43 wrote: Why don't they just turn the motor around and be done with it?

Hut wrote: This^^^
I forget why they turned it around in the first place.

Too much mass. Had to centralize it!!

newmann wrote: Too much mass. Had to centralize it!!

and now they are trying to move the exhaust forward, makes sense...

Hut wrote: This^^^
I forget why they turned it around in the first place.

newmann wrote: Too much mass. Had to centralize it!!

Hut wrote: and now they are trying to move the exhaust forward, makes sense...

The new Honda 450 puzzles me. Bike mfgs are always trying to balance the bikes yet they take two pounds off with air forks up front and add four(?) out back with dual exhaust?? Waiting on MXA to tell us how this affects the pitch, roll and yaw....

newmann wrote: The new Honda 450 puzzles me. Bike mfgs are always trying to balance the bikes yet they take two pounds off with air forks up front and add four(?) out back with dual exhaust?? Waiting on MXA to tell us how this affects the pitch, roll and yaw....

You said it, puzzling!

Are people even buying these Yamahas anymore?

Myke wrote: Are people even buying these Yamahas anymore?

Yea they do and it's a great dependable bike with great suspension what do you ride?

So they have this ultra lightweight titanium exhaust to SAVE on weight, then make the headpipe wrap around the engine to ADD more weight. They reversed the engine to CENTRALIZE the mass and now they are trying to UNcentralize it by moving more mass forward? Someone at Yamaha is severely overthinking the situation, and probably getting paid a shitload.

Crush wrote: Like I said on the photo, I kinda would have expected with it going all the way round the engine they could pull the pipe in a little more, still sticks out a mile!!!!

Wonder if they thought of running it in front of the frame spar to try throw some weight forward on that thing? Maybe use the space left behind there to make the electrics more accessible...

They have to make the muffler at least a certain length to meet sound regulations. If they moved the muffler further forward, they would start running into issues with 1) the muffler canister hitting the narrow area between the subframe and shock and 2) having to put a bend into the muffler which I believe is less efficient.

newmann wrote: It's apparently a new design from Yamaha

They are coming to grips that it was a flawed design? Wrapping it all the way around the watercooled cylinder is going to help? Get back to me when it hit 196 lbs. wet/no fuel and the exhaust tucks in properly.

Yamaha has a small bore 2 stroke that comes close at 197lbs and 3rd gear doesn't explode resulting in wrecked engine cases.

Myke wrote: Are people even buying these Yamahas anymore?

nadeauracing229 wrote: Yea they do and it's a great dependable bike with great suspension what do you ride?

2012 Specialized Stumpjumper EVO.

Last bike with an engine. 2 years ago 2006 Suzuki RM250.

tbanks wrote: A little off topic but I'm digging that One Industries Color combo

I was joking with a couple of the younger members of the JGR crew about the oddity of Petty blue being used on a JGR rider, but I'm not sure they got it.

Myke wrote: Are people even buying these Yamahas anymore?

nadeauracing229 wrote: Yea they do and it's a great dependable bike with great suspension what do you ride?

Myke wrote: 2012 Specialized Stumpjumper EVO.

Last bike with an engine. 2 years ago 2006 Suzuki RM250.

Sorry I think the bike is great though we own 2. If this is affordable looks really cool

Crush it might help if you read the picture captions next time LOL

shanhard wrote: Crush it might help if you read the picture captions next time LOL

Ya think?