Will the sport of amateur hare scrambles eclipse MX ?

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I attended an average local run-of-the-mill hare scrambles on Sunday. They had 505 adult dirt bike riders sign up (add the youth and you can increase the numbers by at least 100).

In October we had a GNCC hare scrambles and had 24,000 spectators (numbers that compare to professional MX showing up for a amateur event).

Please no flaming (life is too short to argue) - just an observation...

Your thoughts (yes or no format)....
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smoothies862 2/27/2017 5:08pm
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HS have a great turnout because you do your riding all at once and go home. no sitting. a lot of people treat it like an organized trail ride. I could see it getting bigger and bigger.
I like doing both. moto will always be my favorite though. I also think gp style would be great. mixing woods with motocross on one long track. 45 minute race. you could separate them so you could do a class early then another in the afternoon. running similar classes together. with different gate drops/rows.
if I had the cash I would have a moto bike and a gncc bike.
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JDay is doing a number on the local MX scene in New England. It has been steadily gaining in popularity over the last few years.
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Jon_Haynes 2/27/2017 5:29pm
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I was there, what a turn out. I sucked but got a lap in.
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Off road racing is more sustainable for the working man. I LOVE riding Mx, but to get fast on Motocross tracks these days you have to take big risks. I can practice woods riding almost anywhere, mx tracks are getting more and more scarce. I love my 2 hour hare scrambles but if I had to bet money, the two moto format like J day will soon rule all of off road.

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vetmxr 2/27/2017 5:49pm
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Hare scrambles and enduros are in my future, good value for the money.......motocross is not good around here unless you like to spend $500 to line up with 2 other riders in your class and sit around most of the day wishing you were riding only to have the promoter tell you because off all the mini classes, because everyone needs a trophy, your second moto's will be shortened in half.....I'll pass on that shit.

And if you think Hare scrambles are for pussies, go sign up in an expert class and you will soon have a newfound respect for those pussies. Hell B class for that matter.
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More time on the bike on the track, more plain fun, safer courses, older bikes do just fine...what's not to like?
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LungButter 2/27/2017 6:15pm
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Moto520 wrote:
No
I think your in for a surprise
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FWYT 2/27/2017 6:18pm
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They've been getting huge turnouts (of racers) for years.

Edit: If we're talking about spectators, no, I don't see that happening.
It's too grassroots. Which is also the reason for the huge rider turnouts.
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Here in Florida we average around 600-700 entries per event. 15 races a year. I'd say it's pretty big.
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cloverdale 2/27/2017 6:52pm
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My question is relative to riders (amateur hare scrambles vs amateur mx)
Sounds like Florida has the same hare scramble rider turn out as Indiana...
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I started racing soke more off-road this year. Ran a JDAY and another local series that is another half woods half mx format and had the most fun I'd ever had on a dirtbike. Something about getting into a flow in the woods and then coming out of the tight stuff to blast through some berms and some jumps. We ran two 40 minute motos, and I battled one guy for all 40 minutes of the second Moto. I was cooked for a week after that race but it was great. Most mx races in lucky if I get 40 minutes total all day with two 5 lap motos, before you can get going the things over and you wait 6 hours to ride again. These new GP woods races are the future and they are awesome.
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As far as the televised pro stuff, I don't think so. But for the other 95% of the riding community YES! Like others said, I love to ride a track here and there but when you can get in that groove during a 2-3hr offroad race there isn't a better feeling. And the sprint enduro format is the easiest transition for moto guys to crossover with, and the format is gaining popularity across the country.
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Yes bro

moto I park next to someone and they come tell me they're saving 5 spots for their Bros. Offroad I park next to someone and they come tell me my rear tire is low and my bike sounds funky and let's go ahead and figure out what is causing it as they're grabbing the tools to tear into it.

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user760a 2/27/2017 8:21pm
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In my area, HS eclipsed MX a long time ago. The MX scene here is on life support while HS is going huge.
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Personally I love to ride Moto but I'd rather race GP's or hare scrambles. We have the BIG6 GP series here and it's awesome! For the same price as a weekend R.E.M. Race at glen Helen (which is two 10-15 min motos), I can ride a 45min unlimited open class for practice and another 45min in my regular class race. As pirate421 said it's awesome to go into the woods (in my case the desert or high desert) and then back onto an MX track and do some jumps. I got more riding in, it kicked my ass way more, didn't sit around all day, and I got home earlier. Win win win win... that's 4 wins.

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smashingpumpkins167 2/27/2017 11:10pm
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It probabaly already has. When I lived in Missouri there were huge crowds at each off road race that I attended. I just wish I could find some off road racong out here in southern California though.

I liked all the different bike brands that were at those hare scrambles too. It wasn't just the big five.
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kzizok 2/27/2017 11:33pm
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Happened several years ago.
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Plugga 2/28/2017 12:18am
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I've raced both for the last 25 years. You will find the participation numbers higher in H/S as your weekend trail rider can at least give it go without killing themselves. MX not so much.

I love the thrill of MX, but H/S is way better value for money.
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cloverdale 3/8/2017 3:09pm
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I think the new RacerX answers this question quite nicely - the first ever off road rider makes the cover...
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moto711 3/8/2017 3:34pm
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cloverdale wrote:
I think the new RacerX answers this question quite nicely - the first ever off road rider makes the cover...
That was a very good article and explained the state Off-Road is in very nicely
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I had no idea how big the offroad scene was until last year when I raced my first ever enduro. The place could literally not handle 1 more person it was that packed. I think I spent $30 that day, rode my $1200 kdx200 for 3 hours straight, and had a freakin blast. I left that race so sore I could barely drive home but way worth it. Whats not to like?
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#dirtbikesforever
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HardTaco wrote:
Off road racing is more sustainable for the working man. I LOVE riding Mx, but to get fast on Motocross tracks these days you have to...
Off road racing is more sustainable for the working man. I LOVE riding Mx, but to get fast on Motocross tracks these days you have to take big risks. I can practice woods riding almost anywhere, mx tracks are getting more and more scarce. I love my 2 hour hare scrambles but if I had to bet money, the two moto format like J day will soon rule all of off road.
I've seen you in the va series. Aren't you the guy who can tell the flavor of a popsicle by sitting on it?
Wink
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Pirate421 wrote:
I started racing soke more off-road this year. Ran a JDAY and another local series that is another half woods half mx format and had the...
I started racing soke more off-road this year. Ran a JDAY and another local series that is another half woods half mx format and had the most fun I'd ever had on a dirtbike. Something about getting into a flow in the woods and then coming out of the tight stuff to blast through some berms and some jumps. We ran two 40 minute motos, and I battled one guy for all 40 minutes of the second Moto. I was cooked for a week after that race but it was great. Most mx races in lucky if I get 40 minutes total all day with two 5 lap motos, before you can get going the things over and you wait 6 hours to ride again. These new GP woods races are the future and they are awesome.
yes. sign me up. I guess jday is what I was talking about without knowing what it is called. I hope some come around here.
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WhiteTaco 3/8/2017 4:06pm
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After the first HS I raced, the arm pump/hand fatigue was so bad I couldn't undo the strap on my helmet by myself. Noting like trying to race through arm pump for 1.5hrs. Haha. Had a blast and a very humbling experience.
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HardTaco 3/8/2017 4:08pm
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HardTaco wrote:
Off road racing is more sustainable for the working man. I LOVE riding Mx, but to get fast on Motocross tracks these days you have to...
Off road racing is more sustainable for the working man. I LOVE riding Mx, but to get fast on Motocross tracks these days you have to take big risks. I can practice woods riding almost anywhere, mx tracks are getting more and more scarce. I love my 2 hour hare scrambles but if I had to bet money, the two moto format like J day will soon rule all of off road.
WhiteTaco wrote:
I've seen you in the va series. Aren't you the guy who can tell the flavor of a popsicle by sitting on it?
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That's me! Learned that trick and many others from a dude who quit racing named JT Grinning

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