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Serious question. The argument against two stroke making a comeback for years has been, "four strokes are easier to ride fast because of the torque and traction they make" and bikes come with efi now and even KTM has DI two strokes because, "they are easier to tune and you don't have to adjust for elevation". I was just reading the e start thread and there is a consensus e start is better because it's easier than kicking a bike when your tired, and the next big thing everybody seems to be looking forward to is e bikes because there is no clutch or shifting and it's "easier" to go fast. What's with the desire to make MX easy? I have a yz450f and a kx250 so I'm not just pushing the two stroke agenda I'm just genuinely curious.
My point is most people don't want to do more than they have to in any situation.
Also we live in the "microwave generation" which has killed a lot of brick and mortar shops via online shopping with better prices, delivered to the door step.
Edit: post was in reference to what mikec265 said.
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Race teams strive to have the best, fastest and most efficient equipment.
Ask any fast rider if 2 strokes are more fun then 4 strokes. 9 out of 10 will tell you they definitely are.
Are they faster (more like easier to go fast on/forgiving)? No way.
You can make up your mistakes on a 4 stroke easier. You can find traction where you would only get wheelspin on a smoker. It has more torque and more usable powerband which equals faster bike overall.
E-bikes are a new thing now, but they're probably the next step to going faster. No clutching and shifting reduces the space for human error even more, therefore leads to a generally faster and more consistent laptimes, which is what racing is about.
On the other hand, if you've already realized that you won't be the next GOAT, and like to challenge yourself, smoker will do you good and keep you happy. It's a bit harder to make it go, but it also feels more rewarding.
A matter of character I guess, the willingness to challenge yourself that tiny bit more, just to get that tiny bit more fun out of it and have a tiny bit bigger smile at the end of a day.
Motocross has never been easy and motocross will never be easy.
Why don't we weld up our linkages and swap back to drum brakes?
Increased speed dramatically increases risk, especially indoors... and no doubt four strokes go faster, easier, which you could argue makes for "closer" racing sometimes, but watching the guys follow each other with minimal passing, due to high speed or the bike's ability to recover from a mistake isn't that exciting either.
The components of two stroke racing made for a lot more excitement to me, they had to work so hard to really rip, but didn't always mean it was close racing... It was generally slower, more technical, less crazy risk, and a reason to take different lines because you had to go wide to go big.
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Pit Row
My last race was 10 years ago and I had a pair of four strokes. If I was serious about racing then I would still have a pair of 4 strokes for easier/ better results. I have more fun on my 250 and 500 2 strokes these days.
"They're all looking for the 'sugar packet' solution. "
I can also say that even at my age....3 yrs back on 2 strokes and my corner speed has gotten a lot better. Nothing against 4 strokes...as I'm picking up a new 350 before next season. But I'm keeping my 2 strokes because they are the best damn training a dude can do!!
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