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Where are the Endurocross Fans at?? Not in Reno
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To put some perspective on things and offer full disclosure.......I am the floor director / racing manager for the Endurocross series. I am also a former AMA Supermoto promoter as well as many, many other events. I am probably uniquely qualified to address PhilG comment on that basis
PhilG - big jumps didn't kill Supermoto. Far from it. This isn't the place for that discussion but I was in the middle of all that and it wasn't jumps that hurt the series. It isn't our plan for Endurocross either. We didn't have any rider that I am aware of that had a complaint. If you aren't comfortable jumping there was still a quick way through that section..... you didn't have to jump. Many of the amateurs didn't try.......we are trying to offer a racey track with an emphasis on making it amateur friendly without sacrificing great racing for the Pro riders. Based on amateur entries thus far it is working. .
thearc - Thanks for attending. We had a good turnout for a totally new market. It will take some time to develop. As for YouTube views......we don't rely on that much. Endurocross.com and dirtrider.com are used to measure success. We were shocked at how high the numbers were for Vegas.
In a general sense there is no thought of having SX type crowds. Won't happen......ever.
If you describe a good racing event as including many lead changes and passes it is hard to beat EX. If you measure it by how tight the championship is, EX has that. Rivalry.....yep got that covered.
Changes were made and are continuing to be made to make better racing, excitement for the crowd and a way for amateurs to participate. There are people who are very change resistant and others who welcome it in an effort to improve.
I was with a very well known pro from an entirely different racing sport at Reno and his comment was " wow...this is REALLY great racing"
Endurocross may not excite everyone and that is OK. For those it does excite they are very loyal, enthusiastic fans.
We all listen to the racers, teams and fans input. We try to adjust as needed to make racing safe, tight and fun.
Hope that didn't bore anyone and rest assured that everyone on the team is working really hard to deliver exciting racing. The Bonnier group is very committed and excited about Endurocross. Eric Peronnard the creator of Endurocross is very involved and excited about the future.
Most people are minimally aware of Endurocross, even if it does come to their town. Not many fans of any sport have the time or money to fly to races. The Live Streaming is a huge step to increase awareness and the following.
I constantly see cable TV loaded with moto formats that they can apparently get cheap. Flat track, supermoto, arenacross etc. are on all the time, even replays of last year SX series are frequently on HD.
You are correct Eric sold the series and this is the 1st year he is not promoting it and that is why it is 100% only in the west this year.
Eric and his crew is famous at getting HUGE things done for motorcycling.
I am planning to attend it live in PHX / Scottsdale AZ in a few weeks and hope seeing it live will change my interest.
You will have fun!
Pit Row
You're also dead on about the fans being absolute die hards, nobody I've ever taken to one of these races has left disappointed. I think people really just don't give it a chance, I almost didn't go to my first one, but after I spectators once I knew it was something I had to try myself, and I've been doing the closest round to me ever since. The Reno track was by far my favorite out of any I've previously ridden, good amount of floor space and not so terribly hard that you couldn't actually race with people. I'm indifferent on the No Joke lane, but I think the bracket racing was a great addition to the night program and makes for some exciting lines and battles.
Overall I think you guys do an awesome job at these events every year, things are very well organized and on time, which makes the whole day run smoothly. getting the webcast back up and running this year is also huge, I was able to tell my family and friends when it would be on and they were able to watch. Look at the interest it's generated right here on Vital as well, definitely a step in the right direction.
I thought you were hurt when I came over to you.....then I realized just really mad that your bike broke. Weird how your chain guide broke off.
Until the end of the Trialscross race I didn't realize that was you.
We all appreciate you joining us.
Like I said, you guys deserve a lot of praise for keeping a tight schedule, thanks for all of your hard work to keep things in check. I might see you in Ontario, I feel like I need some redemption!
This year he is back at it with the Bonnier Group.
For the most part I agree with the amateur stuff. The B main is good, it can be extremely hard to make the amateur main and it's disappointing to have friends and family come out and not even be in the show. Been there a few times. Keeping points for the series is also a huge plus. A few years ago my son won most of his amateur main events but not
the championship because he didn't win the final.
As far as the track goes there's an easy solution, (easy for me to say- Ha Ha) as they did a few years ago. Make a hard matrix, but put pallets in it. Have a hard rock section with a turn, but have it so amateurs can hit it straight. Things like that where done at a lot of events in 2014.
As for the crowds, I don't know. Different locations definitely have more. Denver should have a good crowd. Seattle and Boise should be full! Daytona a few years ago was packed! Standing room only yet circumstances stopped us from going back.
The live stream is great. Much better than the tv package of the last few years. Good for friends and family to watch at home, plus we all can then watch it later on YouTube.
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