When does Glen Helen get the MXdN ?

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wasn't it supposed to be 2013 ?

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Sully 7/5/2016 7:23pm
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I found a bunch of older links on Google saying it was bumped back to 2017, so, unless something's changed recently, I'd say next year.
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500guy 7/5/2016 7:53pm
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I found this dated March 2015


Brazil to host 2017 FIM Motocross of Nations

BETO CARRERO (Brazil) – After today’s qualifying races Mr Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream’s president, Mr Carlinhos Romagnolli, CEO of Romagnolli Promoções e Eventos, and Dr Wolfgang Srb, FIM/CMS director, announced that the 2017 FIM Motocross of Nations will be celebrated in the facilities of Beto Carrero in Brazil. All the parties were really happy to make such announcement, as it is not only important for the country itself, but it also shows the strong partnership between Youthstream, the FIM and Romagnolli Promoções e Eventos.


I found this dated 2013

MXoN at Glen Helen Moved to 2017
December 20, 2013 5:45am
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kzizok 7/5/2016 7:58pm
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500guy wrote:
wasn't it supposed to be 2013 ?

You must have gum on your shoes! Interesting finds, for sure!
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kongols 7/5/2016 9:25pm
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MXdN won`t be held at Glen Helen next year only if GH pulled the plug themselfs.

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kongols 7/5/2016 9:28pm
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I don`t know how it is for Americans, but it costs a lot of money. Only license costs 1.2 million. Kegums with state support (government paid 1.2 million) went belly up few month after the race.
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jeffro503 7/5/2016 9:41pm
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kongols wrote:
I don`t know how it is for Americans, but it costs a lot of money. Only license costs 1.2 million. Kegums with state support (government paid...
I don`t know how it is for Americans, but it costs a lot of money. Only license costs 1.2 million. Kegums with state support (government paid 1.2 million) went belly up few month after the race.
But so much of that goes towards paying the riders and teams right? Those GP riders make serious bank off their winnings over there......right?

1.2 million....UUHHGGG!
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I found this dated March 2015 Brazil to host 2017 FIM Motocross of Nations BETO CARRERO (Brazil) – After today’s qualifying races Mr Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream’s...
I found this dated March 2015


Brazil to host 2017 FIM Motocross of Nations

BETO CARRERO (Brazil) – After today’s qualifying races Mr Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream’s president, Mr Carlinhos Romagnolli, CEO of Romagnolli Promoções e Eventos, and Dr Wolfgang Srb, FIM/CMS director, announced that the 2017 FIM Motocross of Nations will be celebrated in the facilities of Beto Carrero in Brazil. All the parties were really happy to make such announcement, as it is not only important for the country itself, but it also shows the strong partnership between Youthstream, the FIM and Romagnolli Promoções e Eventos.


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MXoN at Glen Helen Moved to 2017
December 20, 2013 5:45am
Yeah, I saw that one, too, but it was the only article I saw mentioning Brazil, so I didn't give it much thought. Hopefully Kongols is right.
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kongols 7/5/2016 10:01pm
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Yeah, I saw that one, too, but it was the only article I saw mentioning Brazil, so I didn't give it much thought. Hopefully Kongols is...
Yeah, I saw that one, too, but it was the only article I saw mentioning Brazil, so I didn't give it much thought. Hopefully Kongols is right.
Don`t quote me. I have no knowledge. If the race is not held in Glen Helen next year it`s not because of Youthstream. Planning starts few years before the race and if it is cancelled just 14 month before the race, I find it hard to believe it`s FIM or YS fault. Perhaps GH ran in to some obstacles, or didn`t pay on time.
I remember Brasil being mentioned for a brief period of time, but it was back to GH shortly after announcing MXGP races there for 2015-2016 and MXDN for 2017.
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kongols 7/5/2016 10:16pm
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Glen Helen is not in 2017 mxgp calendar, which makes sense if mxdn is held there next year. Otherwise it looks like Glen Helen pulled a plug on FIM series.
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From the outside looking in Glen Helen lost a ton of money from the GPs they had and were most likely hoping to make up for the losses with a Des Nations (even if they didn't pay a standard promotion fee like the other GPs, the cost of running an event doesn't pencil out with 5000 spectators). If the Des Nations was pulled from them it would suck for Bud and crew.

Youthstream will cut deals for events that they want to happen, I had a contract in hand for 4 GPs and a Des Nations at one point, the timing and the dollars and cents didn't pencil out for the US market at the time and the lack of AMA rider participation to lose money on 4 gps to get 1 Des Nations. Then I talked to Jonathan Beasly and found out how big of a hole Budds Creek was in after the Des Nations and that was considered a huge success.

YS are wheelers and dealers so the Des Nations in Kegums is going to pay more than a des Nations in the US or France (big crowds) or this year in Italy (home country). But Youthstream will get their share, whether it's upfront money or a larger percentage of ticket sales. They are doing good business for Youthstreams bottom line. Just wish the tracks and riders that basically put the event on could see some return for the Des Nations.
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kkawboy14 7/6/2016 5:42am
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How long until monster, Lucas oil or rockstar starts doing their own series?
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2017 PROVISIONAL FIM MXGP / MX2 MOTOCROSS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP CALENDAR
DATE GRAND PRIX VENUE ADDITIONAL RACES
25 February (Sat) QATAR Losail
5 March INDONESIA Pangkal Pinang Women
19 March PATAGONIA - ARGENTINA Neuquen
26 March LEON - MEXICO Leon
9 April ITALY tba EMX125, Women
23 April EUROPE Valkenswaard EMX125, EMX250
7 May LATVIA Kegums EMX125, EMX250
14 May GERMANY tba EMX150, EMX250
28 May FRANCE Ernée EMX125, EMX250, Women
4 June GREAT BRITAIN Matterley Basin EMX125, EMX150, EMX250
18 June BELGIUM Lommel EMX150, EMX250, Women
25 June ITALY Maggiora EMX125, EMX250
9 July SAN MARINO Baldasserona EMX125, EMX150
30 July CZECH REP. Loket EMX65, EMX85, Women
13 August SWITZERLAND Frauenfeld/Gachnang EMX125, EMX150, EMX250
20 August SWEDEN Uddevalla EMX250, Women
2 September (Sat) MONSTER ENERGY MXGP OF USA Charlotte
10 September THE NETHERLANDS Assen EMX150, Women, Veteran
17 September TBA tba EMX125, EMX250
1 October – Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations – USA, tba
7 October - Monster Energy FIM-E SMX Riders' & Manufacturers' Cup - Germany, VELTINS-Arena
6 August – FIM Junior Motocross World Championship – Estonia, Lange Motokeskus
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motogrady 7/6/2016 6:03am
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Glen Helen will get that race when they have a few million to spend with no return expected.
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Krallang 7/6/2016 9:40am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
How long until monster, Lucas oil or rockstar starts doing their own series?
They already have for the most part.

Monster runs supercross.
Red Bull runs outdoors.
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Budds Creek never fully recovered from it's MXdN. It's a complicated story, and the FIM isn't solely to blame, but Beasley lost his ass and has been behind the curve ever since.
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kongols 7/6/2016 10:03am
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(((what))) wrote:
Budds Creek never fully recovered from it's MXdN. It's a complicated story, and the FIM isn't solely to blame, but Beasley lost his ass and has...

Budds Creek never fully recovered from it's MXdN. It's a complicated story, and the FIM isn't solely to blame, but Beasley lost his ass and has been behind the curve ever since.
Kegums went bankruptcy immediately after. The guy that ran it passed away few month ago.

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