What's the big deal about estart on a mx bike??

I understand it's a huge convenience to have electronic start on a bike and a advantage to be able to start fast as possible in a race with a stall or wreck. And estart is awesome for off road guys. But for the avarge weekend motocross rider, why does people bitch so bad that a motocross bike doesn't come with e start? It less things to maintain and go wrong and a cheaper msrp. If you're riding motocross, it takes how much physical effect to ride so how is just starting the bike with a kicker that bad? People complained about fourstrokes being to easy to ride yet they want electric start? and for the off-road guys that really benefit with estart. Most fx models come with estart. So why does the mx bikes HAVE to have estart? Like the new crf's. get a rx or just kick the thing.
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1/30/2017 10:09am Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 10:11am
How is it any more of an advantage for the off-road guys? Losing time is losing time. Have you ever been tired as hell, stalled the bike, and kicked it until you've almost had a heart attack? Lord knows I have. Having the ability to RE-start the bike after dropping it with just the push of a button rather than wasting both time and physical endurance is a huge advantage for the rider, regardless of what discipline you ride. Period.

As far as why a bike "HAS" to have it - KTM and Husky have them across the board right out of the box, which is an immediate advantage for whomever is riding that bike over their competitors who do not have it. Just my 2cents..
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1/30/2017 10:11am
I think "I understand it's a huge convenience" answers your own question haha
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1/30/2017 10:15am
I thought the same thing until I owned one.
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1/30/2017 10:15am
hvaughn88 wrote:
I think "I understand it's a huge convenience" answers your own question haha
Exactly, convenience... And why not?

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1/30/2017 10:17am
Picture stalling and restarting your bike in about 1 second on the last lap losing the lead and being able to stay close enough to pass the guy again Evil
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1/30/2017 10:19am
Once my knees, hips and back are shot I hope electric starters are on every motorcycle made.
1/30/2017 10:30am
A elevator is a convenience too, but some use the steps. I'm just saying. Why are some people so bothered that the new mx bikes minus ktm/husky don't come with e start? I have to maintain a barttery in my truck, cars, quad, lawnmower, streetbike,etc.. just one less battery to worry about. I need a e start pressure washer lol
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1/30/2017 10:34am
A elevator is a convenience too, but some use the steps. I'm just saying. Why are some people so bothered that the new mx bikes minus...
A elevator is a convenience too, but some use the steps. I'm just saying. Why are some people so bothered that the new mx bikes minus ktm/husky don't come with e start? I have to maintain a barttery in my truck, cars, quad, lawnmower, streetbike,etc.. just one less battery to worry about. I need a e start pressure washer lol
You said "quad"... LOL!



I can't wait to see what the next fabricated thing to bitch about is.....
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1/30/2017 10:36am
A elevator is a convenience too, but some use the steps. I'm just saying. Why are some people so bothered that the new mx bikes minus...
A elevator is a convenience too, but some use the steps. I'm just saying. Why are some people so bothered that the new mx bikes minus ktm/husky don't come with e start? I have to maintain a barttery in my truck, cars, quad, lawnmower, streetbike,etc.. just one less battery to worry about. I need a e start pressure washer lol
huck wrote:
You said "quad"... LOL!



I can't wait to see what the next fabricated thing to bitch about is.....
"Start-Mode"
1/30/2017 10:38am
Most guys on vital are over 50, more than 30-50lbs overweight and have the endurance of a teenage boy inside his first wet pussy. If you don't race on the national scale/for money it really makes no difference. Minor convenience sure but nothing close to the chodes here racing 50+ racking up those participation trophies.
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1/30/2017 10:40am
Once you go estart, you don't go back. Unless it's a 125, I don't mind starting that bike...
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1/30/2017 10:43am
Because 4 strokes are hideous.

If on a 2 stroke its because you're just lazy.
I remember when EFI 2 strokes hit the market in 1992 OEM.
The 1st aftermarket part was deleting the battery.
Next year it was OEM also.
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1/30/2017 10:44am
Yep, once you have had a bike with the E start you wont go back.

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1/30/2017 11:03am
Motofinne wrote:
Yep, once you have had a bike with the E start you wont go back.

Yup, all you have to do is own one to understand.
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1/30/2017 11:07am Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 11:10am
I would not even ride a 4 stroke until they had FI and e-start. If your 5'8 like me, kick start 4 strokes are a special kind of hell. And I never could get the carbs right on them, always had that hiccup at 1/4 throttle.
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1/30/2017 11:23am
not having E-start on a dirt bike is like not torquing your sprocket bolts regularly
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Most guys on vital are over 50, more than 30-50lbs overweight and have the endurance of a teenage boy inside his first wet pussy. If you...
Most guys on vital are over 50, more than 30-50lbs overweight and have the endurance of a teenage boy inside his first wet pussy. If you don't race on the national scale/for money it really makes no difference. Minor convenience sure but nothing close to the chodes here racing 50+ racking up those participation trophies.
Dude, I'm 21 and I can't tell you how many times I've sat there kicking my yz250 on the side of a fat hill, with my left foot, just cursing all that is Yamaha for not putting E-start on this bike!Laughing And then my buddy with a ktm just hits his start button next to me to make sure I'm as pissed off as possible.Whistling
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I love kick starting my CR500. Lean her over, fuel comes out the float bowl drain tube, and anticipation builds as you kick it over and it fires to life. That's in the pits or the garage.

On the trail or track, I wish I had it! Oh, and Peelout, no problem with sprocket bolts on that thing, just the axle nut (a time or two).
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1/30/2017 11:40am
E-start & kickstand... Now your talking ;-)
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Once you've had a bike with electric start, get back to me. You can't beat it. I barely touch my YZ490 anymore since I got my KTM.
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I have been with KTM for just the e-start for the last 7yrs, simply because I have a hip problem, I can ride no hassle (well, that's a lie if I'm honest as yes it does hurt to ride but hey I am having operations on it to try and sort it out it's a long process and I love MX!) but if I raise my hip up over a certain height and try to kick start then pain central.

So, for me in my situation and maybe others here who have problems with hips/backs/knees etc then YES, it's a big deal.
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1/30/2017 12:14pm
It is definitely a convenience but I would rather have a bike with a kick starter and no e-start, than a bike with e-start and no kick starter. Being in staging with a dead battery and having to push start a KTM 450 in the cold will make you say words you've never even thought of saying lol
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1/30/2017 12:15pm
4 strokes are a bitch to start.
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Throw away the remote to your TV for a month and get back to us.
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1/30/2017 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 12:40pm
Here's MD shrugging his shoulders at the managers tower last Saturday whilst presumably trying to restart his bike.
I think he was thinking the same thing as the OP


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1/30/2017 12:52pm
mx_563 wrote:
Here's MD shrugging his shoulders at the managers tower last Saturday whilst presumably trying to restart his bike. I think he was thinking the same thing...
Here's MD shrugging his shoulders at the managers tower last Saturday whilst presumably trying to restart his bike.
I think he was thinking the same thing as the OP


Their battery system and engine builds are so much different to the publics...
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Bigfoot wrote:
[img]https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/figures/A00209F07.jpg[/img] Nothing more to say...


Nothing more to say...
How the hell do i get a rocket launcher installed in my ankle?!!! I'd be sendin missles to every asshole i run in to with that bad boy

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