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Edit to add: From Vital front page interview with HRC vice president Mr. Shuhei Nakamoto.
What is HRC’s stance on two-stroke, any development whatsoever?
Zero.
I guess that answers that. But, I think we already knew it.
What is HRC’s stance on two-stroke, any development whatsoever?
Zero.
I guess that answers that. But, I think we already knew it.
This two stroke "thing" is happening whether Big Red, Big Green, and Big Money wants it to or not.
Repeat: We two stroke guys don't give a FUCK. We will ride them, continue to point out the flaws in "four stroke logic" and generally beat this overpriced and complicated moto-dystopia you've created into the ground...one sweet blip of throttle at a time.
Like music.
But I'm a two-stroke guy first, so I have 2015 250SX in my garage right now.
The Shop
In Atlanta last weekend, I asked a top SX rider (who also happens to be pretty two-stroke-friendly) whether he thought we'd see two-strokes in the pro class again. He said no. Between the power delivery, and the way they're infinitely tunable via electronics, he didn't see it happening.
That said, I think it makes a lot of sense for weekend riders and people who aren't riding at that level to own and purchase two-strokes.
You buy what you want that is the power of the consumer, if several manufacturers dont produce a 2 stroke then you go with who does, why does anybody complain about what someone doesnt build? Not as though this thread will mean Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki will now start producing 125, 250 and 500 2 strokes....
Honda does not.
No?
Go Figure!
Love or Hate all Ya want.
Less Smokers in your future.
Interesting in the age of 4-Strokes, in offroad 2-Strokes are dominating...
We gather this data at each event onour Sign-Up forms. This year we will be tracking the model year just to see how long riders are holding on to their bike and how many new ones are really out there.
Strong rumor says that Yamaha will drop an all new YZ 2-Stroke offroad model built on a similar model design as the new YZ250F in 2017.
Pit Row
This isn't coming from what we see all the big pro's that run the SX and MX nationals.....this is for the other 99.999% of the population that rides dirt bikes. When I was searching for a smaller bike to go along with my 450 , I was looking at a lot of 250's. And owning a 4 stroke 250 over a 2 stroke 250.....never crossed my mind.
My point is, many of the advantages of the 2 strokes, or in other words, the downsides of the 4 strokes have now been solved and the 4 stroke engine is a better engine for racing and everyday use. They're also more efficient which is a philosophy that Honda follows.
I will say this though, whilst their 4 stroke whipper snippers (weed wackers for 'Mericans) are more expensive, I think they're worth it. How a 4 stroke engine can be that small, light and powerful is amazing.
It's a shame they won't get back into 2 strokes but like other have mentioned, there are plenty of other options out there. Plus, you have Service Honda. Expensive, but you can buy Honda 2 strokes, new. Perhaps not as refined but still the next best thing. And anyway, 2 strokes won't make a comeback until direct injection is on a production possible.
And btw Justin.....how you feeling man?
Well good on him, there are some very nice 2 strokes around
I had no problem spending 6500 on a new husky 250.
Would I have spent that (more like 8000) an a new 4t?? not a chance!
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