What a warm welcome KTM got

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jeffro503
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8/4/2015 7:27pm
Ummm? So I take it Gas-Gas doesn't care much for KTM? Isn't that like an ant not caring about a persons foot?

Semi vs bicycle?
Godzilla vs Bambi?
Great white vs Gold fish?
The hulk vs PeeWee herman?
500guy
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8/4/2015 7:29pm
This is David forgetting his sling shot and flipping Goliath the bird and saying "come at me Bro"

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8/4/2015 9:07pm
Gas gas is going under, KTM wants to buy and Gas Gas would rather go under than have KTM buy them out.
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8/4/2015 9:16pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Gas gas is going under, KTM wants to buy and Gas Gas would rather go under than have KTM buy them out.
That's fine, but do they really need to hang a KTM manikin by the neck and say Die KTM?

It's like my wife says, it's not what you said its how you said it...
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8/4/2015 9:40pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Gas gas is going under, KTM wants to buy and Gas Gas would rather go under than have KTM buy them out.
Probably not a lot of them planning on making the move to India anyways.......
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8/5/2015 1:56am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2015 1:57am
It has to be for publicity. In the end I hope they take KTM's offer. It worked for Husqvarna.
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8/5/2015 2:08am
Radical wrote:
It has to be for publicity. In the end I hope they take KTM's offer. It worked for Husqvarna.
How did it work for Husqvarna? They all lost their jobs.

It worked for Pierer AG.
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8/5/2015 2:16am
Radical wrote:
It has to be for publicity. In the end I hope they take KTM's offer. It worked for Husqvarna.
how did it work? they brought it, shut down the Italian factories, fired all the workers, and took the IP and the brand name to austria an made white KTM's,

if you were a Husqvarna worker, it was a pretty shitty deal, I think the Gas Gas employees may think the same,
8/5/2015 4:33am
Gas Gas have seen what happened with Husky, just because the brand name is kept alive doesn't mean much if your out of a job.
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8/5/2015 5:17am
This is KTM's look at getting into the trials scene. Wouldn't make sense for them to close up the Gas Gas factory and move it unless Spanish regulation made it too difficult to continue.

So the way I see it, GG is going to fold without KTM, and might survive with them. Not a good position to be in.
8/5/2015 5:29am
Hman144 wrote:
This is KTM's look at getting into the trials scene. Wouldn't make sense for them to close up the Gas Gas factory and move it unless...
This is KTM's look at getting into the trials scene. Wouldn't make sense for them to close up the Gas Gas factory and move it unless Spanish regulation made it too difficult to continue.

So the way I see it, GG is going to fold without KTM, and might survive with them. Not a good position to be in.
Spain is uber socialist. That's why Gas Gas can no longer afford to operate there. It's real simple. The Socialist nature of the people is evident in their apparent distaste for Capitalism. Ossa is next. Someone will buy them for their Direct injection, reverse cylinder two-stroke.
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8/5/2015 6:02am
TriRacer27 wrote:
That's fine, but do they really need to hang a KTM manikin by the neck and say Die KTM? It's like my wife says, it's not...
That's fine, but do they really need to hang a KTM manikin by the neck and say Die KTM?

It's like my wife says, it's not what you said its how you said it...
You are funny and I like your avatar.
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8/5/2015 9:20am
Radical wrote:
It has to be for publicity. In the end I hope they take KTM's offer. It worked for Husqvarna.
I rescind my statement, sort of. I should do some research before saying it worked out for them. However, Husqvarna is still around.

What will happen to Gas Gas if they don't allow another company to buy them out?
Obviously what Gas Gas has been doing didn't work out. For another company to buy them and continue to work the exact same plan, would be stupid.

Changes have to be made and in most cases that means consolidation.
8/5/2015 12:19pm
The Socialist experiment fails yet again.
...so how about Norway and Sweden...what year was their failure...
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8/5/2015 2:22pm
Hman144 wrote:
This is KTM's look at getting into the trials scene. Wouldn't make sense for them to close up the Gas Gas factory and move it unless...
This is KTM's look at getting into the trials scene. Wouldn't make sense for them to close up the Gas Gas factory and move it unless Spanish regulation made it too difficult to continue.

So the way I see it, GG is going to fold without KTM, and might survive with them. Not a good position to be in.
Spain is uber socialist. That's why Gas Gas can no longer afford to operate there. It's real simple. The Socialist nature of the people is evident...
Spain is uber socialist. That's why Gas Gas can no longer afford to operate there. It's real simple. The Socialist nature of the people is evident in their apparent distaste for Capitalism. Ossa is next. Someone will buy them for their Direct injection, reverse cylinder two-stroke.
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8/6/2015 10:54am
Actually the Itailians got thier jobs back. KTM sold the factory and they are producing the old Husky 4 strokes as SWM. SWM I have brought this up on several Husqvarna forums yet the old Husky guys still want to paint KTM as the "Evil Empire".
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8/6/2015 11:04am
Gas Gas bikes are a pile of shit...the name alone probably will sink the company.
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8/6/2015 11:06am
dcg141 wrote:
Actually the Itailians got thier jobs back. KTM sold the factory and they are producing the old Husky 4 strokes as SWM. [url=http://www.swm-motorcycles.it/en/]SWM[/url] I have brought...
Actually the Itailians got thier jobs back. KTM sold the factory and they are producing the old Husky 4 strokes as SWM. SWM I have brought this up on several Husqvarna forums yet the old Husky guys still want to paint KTM as the "Evil Empire".
A few of them did, anyways.
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8/6/2015 11:12am
dcg141 wrote:
Actually the Itailians got thier jobs back. KTM sold the factory and they are producing the old Husky 4 strokes as SWM. [url=http://www.swm-motorcycles.it/en/]SWM[/url] I have brought...
Actually the Itailians got thier jobs back. KTM sold the factory and they are producing the old Husky 4 strokes as SWM. SWM I have brought this up on several Husqvarna forums yet the old Husky guys still want to paint KTM as the "Evil Empire".
Thanks for the link. I didn't know anything about those bikes.
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8/6/2015 1:57pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Gas gas is going under, KTM wants to buy and Gas Gas would rather go under than have KTM buy them out.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Probably not a lot of them planning on making the move to India anyways.......
Ha....apple man I'm the same old original kawboy that used to be here in the beginning!
8/6/2015 2:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2015 2:09pm
Canerat wrote:
Gas Gas bikes are a pile of shit...the name alone probably will sink the company.
Enduro - not so good (300 engine aside).

Trials - far and away the best overall bike with a great reputation.
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8/6/2015 2:32pm
Gas Gas made their own bed. Want someone to blame,look in the mirror.


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8/6/2015 3:07pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2015 3:09pm
Poor management choices killed GG. The original founders of the company jumped ship 10 years ago, because they knew the direction things were heading (which they totally didnt agree with).

Ossa was already dying before they were merged with GG. The designers of that bike tried hard to introduce something "new" and "innovative" , but it really didn't pay off.
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8/6/2015 3:40pm
That is hilarious, all it's missing is some mannequin heads on a stakes and it would be a full on Game of Thrones style message to KTM.

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