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jeffro503
1/31/2017 10:14am
1/31/2017 10:14am
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3/25/2018 12:02pm
Wasn't there an insert or something along those lines? Not sure who made it. I know the AER 48 forks can be pretty dang awesome if set up right , but the 4CS seem to of been a problematic type fork. What were guys doing to these forks , besides swapping them out for the cone valve forks? Cone valve inserts maybe? I'm just brain storming here.
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In my opinion, the best option is to keep an eye out for cone valves around $2,000 if you can afford it because you can get that money back any day of the week when you sell them. Someone was just selling CV forks on here for $1,800. Cant beat that.
I went with the Dal Saggio Sphere inserts. I haven't received mine but I was assured the Dal Saggio was a more affordable option over CV forks with valued performance. Little information known about the Dal Saggio but ever review has shown them to be better then the Ohlins inserts.
I have always believed the CV to be the best but unless you know specifics in bike setup, you 'could' be not get the full potential out of your CV forks/suspension. And new, $3500...
The problem with the 4cs is the 12mm dampening rod. Can you get them to work, yes, but any and all work can be costly, time consuming and the modifications stay with the bike and hold no value...How far down the rabbit hole are you willing to go? As an example, Kreft can do some amazing things but it's a $1300 bill.
The AER forks are equally a good option but you will still have to do some work if you want them to perform at their best. Personally I didnt want to risk a possible failure (but then I bought a KTM with no backup Kickstarter????).
The SSS swap is pretty standard but its a $1700 price tag from TBT. This does include 100% new internals and the revalve but that's personally a hard pill to swallow. The big benefit is the knowledge regarding SSS setup as they have been on the market longer then any other suspension. Information aplenty! You could go the less expensive path with used parts but obviously make sure the parts are in good working order...worn out sliders, cracked pistons, bent shims etc etc can make for some frustrated tuning...
And of course, all the other affordable options form companies like MX-tech which could keep you under the $600 mark, but can it be what you're looking for, only you can judge?
For performance & value Rick is hard to beat.
If I had to do it again I would do the same thing in a hot minute. The nice thing about this conversion is that anyone can valve re-valve and tune and get good results.
Pit Row
I bought forks off of eBay and sent him the whole mess. It was about $1200 including shipping and everything by the time it was done.
Just give Jonathan a call. I know that he now has access to new cartridges so you don't have to do the eBay route. But he has done a shit ton of them now and can give you some really good information. 602-617-1032
Edit: for reference, I ride mx only at vet int speed. I did the mx-tech sff conversion on my kxf ps1 air forks. That turned out great and I liked that setup, but these sss converted forks are even better. They are so "smooth!"
I am using the Dal Soggio Sphere kit for enduro riding/racing with 10% on a vet MX track and it does great! Very happy but many people are happy with the SSS. I really think it depends on what you are using the bike for
this ^^^^^
https://mx-tech.com/lucky-4cs-cartridge-system/
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