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But Dirt Wurx needs some competition bad. Really what they need is more dirt, new dirt, and bigger obstacles with more 90 degree turns. Slow those guys down.
The dirt issue is probably FELDs fault. They probably don't pay enough to refresh the dirt and increase the stockpile.
Barcia was talking on PulpMX saying that one of the things he would change is adding way more dirt and like you said bringing in more dirt. It gives some credibility to the notion that the dirt isn't just a problem from the fan's perspective. I have to assume he's not the only rider that thinks that way.
I have very little understanding about how the dirt would be less beat down if the monster trucks went after the Supercross guys. It's dirt. I don't think it has to do with one (or three) weekends. This is stuff that's been used for years. In the case of Anaheim, there were guys washing the front end back in the day, as the moisture came out at night. This is nothing new.
Does the dirt at your local track wear out? How long has it been there?
I think the relationship with Feld and Dirt Wurx is more of a partnership. I'd be surprised if there was a bid process, and I'm not sure I'd want the people with the lowest bid building the tracks.
More dirt? That sounds awesome. How many more loads? How big an area? They have formulas to figure out the square footage, and how many truckloads are needed. But how many more truckloads would be enough to do what you're talking about? What's the cost per truckload? How much more time does that add to the build and removal? Also, in some cases (like the section that went into the stands in Detroit), there's a weight limit to how much can be put on it.
As for all the "probably" at the end of your post, Feld makes for an easy target. But I think you should probably have more facts when you're playing this game.
Random trivia...what would you guess the average weekly cost to put on a Supercross?
The dirt at my local track gets a regular rain shower. It doesn't sit under an overpass for a year then get compacted under monster trucks. Plus they are constantly adding stuff to it.
I never said take the lowest bid, those are your words. I agree FELD "probably" dictates to Dirt Wurx what they want done which is why I said they "probably" don't provide them the money for more dirt. Which is why FELD shares as much of the blame.
To be clear I would place blame on Dirt Wurx for track designs with a bunch of 90's.
I would say FELD is the one that cut off the bowl turns and won't pony up and bring in more dirt which limits Dirt Wurx in what they can do.
Random trivia... What do they "profit" on an average supercross?
Which event stores dirt under an overpass?
Since when did bowl turns become the holy grail of Supercross? If I was running the show (and I'm not) I can completely understand why they don't do bowl turns near the stands. I've seen bikes launched into the stands at the L.A. Coliseum back as far as the 70s (I believe it was Monty McCoy).
One other note on AX (since that was the original intent of this thread), I was talking with Kyle Regal last weekend, he said the whoops are actually a lot bigger in AX than what they're doing in SX right now, and he said he showed up with Supercross settings, and that it took him about half the season to figure out his AX setup.
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Just for fun, I will take a real stab at the cost to build the track each week....
3 12 hour days = 36 hrs build time
20 pieces of equipment x 36 hours @ $85.00 per hour = $61,200
30 guys x 36 hours at $65 per hour (labor burden included) = $70,200
So i will venture a guess at $131,400.00 - I actually hope you really know the answer....
I like seeing people take real guesses at it. What I actually meant was the average production cost for the whole thing. Stadium, construction, crew, structures, running the show, etc.
http://seattletimes.com/html/othersports/2023357829_supercross12xml.html
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