Edit: Bumping Thorpe for Cairoli
SX was not considered when I came up with this list. This is my top 10 best, not necessarily fastest as in raw speed or Magoo and Stewart would be on there. I think the top 3 are pretty much not debatable and could go in any order. The rest of the top 10 is very debatable because there are so many great ones I'm probably forgetting and there really isn't room in the top 10.
Mikkola needs to be higher. His impact in the States was nowhere near RD's, but frankly he got the better of RD more than not in the years they raced each other in their prime.
But this can get argued for days
Jean Michel Bayle
The riders that succeeded in any era did what they needed to do for their times. There's no reason to believe that a modern rider who has succeeded at a high level would not have risen to the occasion if he had faced the challenges of an earlier era. The times are different, the mental fortitude to succeed and will to win is something the great riders share in common regardless of whether they made their places in the sport in eras that presented different challenges.
The bikes, track, resources changes, but the will to win that results in sustained success does not. It's what the great riders have in common. Its as equally unfair to a modern rider to say he has faced as much adversity as Lackey did as it is to say that the riders from past times did not go as fast as the guys do today.
Yer right Joe, Robert needs to be on the list, and probably Hallman, too.
Carla is very hard to leave out too and Geboers who was WC in all 3 classes 125/250/500
Ward,and guys like Tripes that always seem to come up too,what an impossible list??
I've left off active riders, but I think you'd throw RV and Cairoli on to the list, probably up over Hannah and punting Geboers and Glover. And once you get into that cream of the 80's riders on both sides of the pond like Thorpe, Jobe, Carlquist, Malherbe, Stanton, Ward, Barnett, it gets pretty sticky, as well as some of the 60's greats like Tibblin or Friedrichs. There's no wrong answers.
Top Ten Americans
db & Golden Boy TIE
rc, decoster, hannah in the top 3 always. hannah transformed the sport with his dedication to physical fitness, imho.
hannah also defined the term "you win your championships on your bad days"
ive mentioned this before, really need to get a deck of cards and fill it out with with 52 great ones, and still some worthy will be left out. rc, ace of spades, decoster ace of diamonds and hannah ace of clubs (he would club you with his bike if he had to)
"I ain't as good as I once was, but I was good once, as I ever was"
Jeez, if Jerry Robin can beat David Baily on his works Honda, shouldn't he be on the list?
4-After that its a crap shoot of a lot of GREAT riders
When i am making sutch a list i always feel like i dishonor the other great riders i place below eatch other rider.
it's nice to see some have Mikkola on their list, he was a beast. And as FastEddy said, it differs on tracks and situation.
I find this sport to be to complex to create sutch a list. So without places:
RC, Everts, JS7, RV, Cairolli, Mikkola, DeCoster, Wardy, Showtime, Hannah, Geboers, Jobé, Smets, André Malherbe, Hakan Carlquist, Thrope, Ricky Johnson, Joël Robert,... The list goes on really. Allot of riders could be seen as the greatest of THEIR time.
After that it's a crapshoot between a lot of riders. I do think when it's all said and done, Villopoto will be a clear cut top four.
I guess all you guy's forgot about an old dude named Gary Jones?
This is impossible, but I'll try:
Yeah, I'm still not happy with it.
A lost soul swimming in a fish bowl
when you are talking about top10 mx riders of all time and you don't have JS7 at #2 you have to be crazy that is a diss to JS7 the greatest 125 mx rider and a perfect 450 title and he is not on your list you need to see a doctor