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RC
Stefan Everts
Roger DeCoster
Eric Geboers
Rick Johnson
Bob Hannah
Georges Jobe
Jeff Ward
Heikke Mikkola
Antonio Cairoli
Edit: Bumping Thorpe for Cairoli
SX was not considered when I came up with this list. This is my top 10 best, not necessarily fastest as in raw speed or Magoo and Stewart would be on there. I think the top 3 are pretty much not debatable and could go in any order. The rest of the top 10 is very debatable because there are so many great ones I'm probably forgetting and there really isn't room in the top 10.
Stefan Everts
Roger DeCoster
Eric Geboers
Rick Johnson
Bob Hannah
Georges Jobe
Jeff Ward
Heikke Mikkola
Antonio Cairoli
Edit: Bumping Thorpe for Cairoli
SX was not considered when I came up with this list. This is my top 10 best, not necessarily fastest as in raw speed or Magoo and Stewart would be on there. I think the top 3 are pretty much not debatable and could go in any order. The rest of the top 10 is very debatable because there are so many great ones I'm probably forgetting and there really isn't room in the top 10.
But this can get argued for days
James Stewart
Rick Johnson
Jeff Ward
Jean Michel Bayle
David Bailey
Bob Hannah
Jeff Stanton
Ryan Villopoto
Doug Henry
The Shop
Newmanns points well taken too. Those guys lived & raced in another world-literally.
Something the new era riders haven't a clue about. Has everything to do with character, resolve, determination & grit.
The bikes, track, resources changes, but the will to win that results in sustained success does not. It's what the great riders have in common. Its as equally unfair to a modern rider to say he has faced as much adversity as Lackey did as it is to say that the riders from past times did not go as fast as the guys do today.
No one mentioned Robert yet. He was pretty good too with what, 6 world championships?
Even that cantankerous old grouch Jeff Smith who bankrupted AHRMA and stole all that money from it's members and the member funded injured riders benevolent fund to compete in a non winnable pissing match of a lawsuit with Ianucci, was pretty good riding a 190 pound 500cc titanium framed BSA. Wow, holy run on sentence! And yes, there are those who will always rise to the occasion but the Apples and Oxen comparisons always tend to go somewhat south.
Everts
Hannah
Glover
RJ
Jeff Ward
Stanton
JMB
Cairoli
Stewart (he's got a perfect season in MX)
Ward,and guys like Tripes that always seem to come up too,what an impossible list??
Bike size,conditions ect...
Diverse rider,ect..
S Everts
Mikkola
DeCoster
RJ
Robert
Hallman
Hannah
E. Geboers
Glover
I've left off active riders, but I think you'd throw RV and Cairoli on to the list, probably up over Hannah and punting Geboers and Glover. And once you get into that cream of the 80's riders on both sides of the pond like Thorpe, Jobe, Carlquist, Malherbe, Stanton, Ward, Barnett, it gets pretty sticky, as well as some of the 60's greats like Tibblin or Friedrichs. There's no wrong answers.
RC
Rad Boy
Hurricane
RV
Bubba
Bomber
db & Golden Boy TIE
Wardy
Dungey
Stanton
hannah also defined the term "you win your championships on your bad days"
ive mentioned this before, really need to get a deck of cards and fill it out with with 52 great ones, and still some worthy will be left out. rc, ace of spades, decoster ace of diamonds and hannah ace of clubs (he would club you with his bike if he had to)
1-RC
2-Everts
3-Stewart
4-After that its a crap shoot of a lot of GREAT riders
it's nice to see some have Mikkola on their list, he was a beast. And as FastEddy said, it differs on tracks and situation.
I find this sport to be to complex to create sutch a list. So without places:
RC, Everts, JS7, RV, Cairolli, Mikkola, DeCoster, Wardy, Showtime, Hannah, Geboers, Jobé, Smets, André Malherbe, Hakan Carlquist, Thrope, Ricky Johnson, Joël Robert,... The list goes on really. Allot of riders could be seen as the greatest of THEIR time.
Pit Row
Three of DeCoster's 500 titles came when Mikkola was racing the 250 GPs. Of the years they raced head to head in the 500's, Mikkola took three titles and DeCoster took two. DeCoster is rightly a legend, and especially in the US where he his consistent participation in the Trans AMA made him a real ambassador when the sport was coming into its own. But any credit due to DeCoster is at least the credit due Mikkola.
oh and swap out villopodium with dungey
2. Everts
3. Decoster
After that it's a crapshoot between a lot of riders. I do think when it's all said and done, Villopoto will be a clear cut top four.
1. RC
2. Hannah
3. Decoster
4. Johnson
5. Everts
6. Mikkola
7. Ward
8. Karsmakers
9. Glover
10. Stewart
Yeah, I'm still not happy with it.
this wins for me
And while James may have been one of the fastest, and at times one of the best, we are talking about "of all time" here. James has had a whole lot of quit and downtime over his career. If only he had that RC determination and work ethic, I think he would have rewritten all of the record books.
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