Tomac Says No to Des Nations

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UpTiTe 7/30/2017 6:18pm
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Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
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akillerwombat 7/30/2017 6:27pm
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Whats more American than chasing money?
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Yep 7/30/2017 6:31pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
Agreed, a big waste of time for the AMA riders
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APLMAN99 wrote:
I wish Tomac was racing the MXoN, but it's certainly not a question of patriotism on his part. Racing the event isn't anything equivocal to defending...
I wish Tomac was racing the MXoN, but it's certainly not a question of patriotism on his part. Racing the event isn't anything equivocal to defending your country or anything.
Yeah people tend to confuse patriotism with nationalism.

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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
Yep wrote:
Agreed, a big waste of time for the AMA riders
Give it a rest source.
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep 100k for a nights work, win all 3, 1 million. Easy decision
jamma10 wrote:
That's what it boils down to unfortunately.
500guy wrote:
Not a hard decision when Youthstream makes 100000:1 over riders and teams it's the most sentimental race of the year and YS goes to the bank...
Not a hard decision when Youthstream makes 100000:1 over riders and teams

it's the most sentimental race of the year and YS goes to the bank on it, everyone else gets to do it for

"the love of the sport"
Agreed. Pretty sickening, really.

Keeping my response short, I'm personally bummed Eli said he's not racing, but I'll still be rooting for the three that do go and know they will put up a hell of a fight regardless. We have more than 1 good racer here in the states, this doesn't automatically mean the US loses again. That's why they line up and the gate drops.
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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
Yep wrote:
Agreed, a big waste of time for the AMA riders
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Give it a rest source.
I miss the source, don't think I ever dropped as much stats as when he used to post. It was fun for me at least.
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ATKpilot99 7/30/2017 7:50pm
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Yep wrote:
Agreed, a big waste of time for the AMA riders
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Give it a rest source.
Park Boys wrote:
I miss the source, don't think I ever dropped as much stats as when he used to post. It was fun for me at least.
Yep is the source . Same guy.
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Park Boys wrote:
I miss the source, don't think I ever dropped as much stats as when he used to post. It was fun for me at least.
I miss Skidaddle
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I don't know about Zack, his hang it all out in the wind riding style may work against him on a 450. I like Joey on a 250, he seems to be surging right now.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
I wish Tomac was racing the MXoN, but it's certainly not a question of patriotism on his part. Racing the event isn't anything equivocal to defending...
I wish Tomac was racing the MXoN, but it's certainly not a question of patriotism on his part. Racing the event isn't anything equivocal to defending your country or anything.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yeah people tend to confuse patriotism with nationalism.
pa·tri·ot·ism
ˈpātrēəˌtizəm/
noun
the quality of being patriotic; vigorous support for one's country.

na·tion·al·ism
ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/
noun
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
"their extreme nationalism was frightening"
an extreme form of this, especially marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries.
plural noun: nationalisms
advocacy of political independence for a particular country.
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tempura 7/30/2017 8:36pm
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SwingHard wrote:
So Tomacs not going. Can anyone confirm Team USA???
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Zach Osbourne, Ddavis, and Brandon

In reality we could get a bunch of mid-pack C riders from Lorettas and stomp those Euro's
LOL!
That's a good team, although Zachary is a weak link and should be omitted.
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tempura 7/30/2017 8:42pm
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Tomac doesn't want to ride, or contractually can't.
His hearts not in it, bummer for the fans.
Send a team that wants to go and represent their country, cheer them on with pride, whomever they may be, and enjoy the biggest race of the year.
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Yep wrote:
Agreed, a big waste of time for the AMA riders
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Give it a rest source.
Park Boys wrote:
I miss the source, don't think I ever dropped as much stats as when he used to post. It was fun for me at least.
Laughing
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GuyB 7/30/2017 9:09pm
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Just as an FYI, Zach told me he practices on a 450 at times. It's not totally unfamiliar to him...
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Sodipop 7/30/2017 10:12pm
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I'd put JMart on a 450 over Osbourne. I think JMart, Anderson, Osbourne is our best available team
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Mit12 7/30/2017 10:13pm
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Tomac can make $1,000,000 winning the SX championship and you make nothing winning the MXoN. I will say it again, until the factories put it in their riders contracts that they have to compete in the MXoN we will never send our best guys! Risking the SX championship to compete in the MXoN is like wiping your ass before you poop, it doesn't make any since.
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motokiwi 7/30/2017 11:08pm
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moto282 wrote:
We need to stop going until they move the date. The fact it's a week or two from monster cup way after our nationals is lame...
We need to stop going until they move the date. The fact it's a week or two from monster cup way after our nationals is lame. Don't blame guys that don't want to go.
Monster cup is a bullshit race that ripped off the McGrath invitational.
Its total smut. Like eveything monster.

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kongols 7/30/2017 11:35pm
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I read through half of these 10 pages. WOW is all I can say.
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Fraser 7/31/2017 2:21am
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Best thing Roger D' could do would be to say '' thanks Eli, but you weren't my pick for the team anyway''. Do Olympic athletes chose whether to compete on how good the prize money is? I hope he doesn't need a ride at Team KTM any time soon. Shameful behaviour Eli, not making any new fans with this.
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Lurk Ing 7/31/2017 2:22am
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I'll say it. He's not going because he's a pussy. And a choker Shocked
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moto282 wrote:
We need to stop going until they move the date. The fact it's a week or two from monster cup way after our nationals is lame...
We need to stop going until they move the date. The fact it's a week or two from monster cup way after our nationals is lame. Don't blame guys that don't want to go.
motokiwi wrote:
Monster cup is a bullshit race that ripped off the McGrath invitational.
Its total smut. Like eveything monster.
This^^^^^^ Apart from big cash, means F/all
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KB221 7/31/2017 2:29am
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Lurk Ing wrote:
I'll say it. He's not going because he's a pussy. And a choker Shocked
I'll say it, your a fuckin idiot! Say that shit to his face keyboard hero.
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Sideways 7/31/2017 2:36am
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Bigjimmyd wrote:
I agree! It used to be an honor to ride for the USA and guys were stoked to get selected to ride! Remember back in the...
I agree! It used to be an honor to ride for the USA and guys were stoked to get selected to ride! Remember back in the day we used to bitch and complain because certain riders were not picked to go? Now they just don't want to go! Used to be about Pride and representing our Country at the biggest race of the year! We as fans couldn't wait for the MXON's! The Top 3 riders from the USA representing the greatest nation in the world! And we would dominate! Now we get ( no disrespect) 3 mid pack guys and get our asses kicked! I know I wanna see our top 3 guys go over there and dominate like we did back in the day! I wanna see another Villopoto ride a 250 and smoke the field!! Something needs to be done!
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Mid pack guys?

2012

Dungey
Bagget
Barcia

2013

Dungey
Tomac
Barcia

2014

Dungey
Jeremy Martin
Tomac

2015

Barcia
Jeremy Martin
Webb

2016

Webb
Alex Martin
Anderson
Yeah those guys are really midpack.. lol
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Sideways 7/31/2017 2:40am
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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
stupid? Its the best race of the year without a doubt!

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jamma10 7/31/2017 3:08am
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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
Sideways wrote:
stupid? Its the best race of the year without a doubt!

I wonder if UpTiTes opinion could be swayed if he was suddenly transported into the crowd before the final moto of the MXdN in Europe? You will never find such an all-consuming, electric sense of excitement, expectation and drama anywhere else in this sport. Infact it's quite possibly the most exhilarating sporting event anywhere in the world.



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Francis377 7/31/2017 3:24am
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I'm European and the MxdN is only half as good without the Americans there. Without the US it's pretty much just like another GP . Most of us follow the AMA series pretty closely and it's just so awesome to have the Americans come over and ride the gp tracks. But the US guys ride 17sx races plus 12 outdoors. You cannot fault any US rider for not wanting to give up the little bit of off-season they get. The US should not send a team with the schedule as it is now. These guys already have to ride way too much.
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Sideways 7/31/2017 3:34am
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UpTiTe wrote:
Its a stupid race that cost the teams a fortune and pays the riders nothing. No rest time, possibility of injury, dumb.
Sideways wrote:
stupid? Its the best race of the year without a doubt!

jamma10 wrote:
I wonder if UpTiTes opinion could be swayed if he was suddenly transported into the crowd before the final moto of the MXdN in Europe? You...
I wonder if UpTiTes opinion could be swayed if he was suddenly transported into the crowd before the final moto of the MXdN in Europe? You will never find such an all-consuming, electric sense of excitement, expectation and drama anywhere else in this sport. Infact it's quite possibly the most exhilarating sporting event anywhere in the world.



Exactly! The atmosphere is insane and all the riders (except Tomac) seem to love riding mxon and always says its the best race of the year.

Its just the crybabys in here that seem to hate mxon all of a sudden because the US havent won in awhile.

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