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Edited Date/Time 2/6/2016 12:50pm
Something interesting happened the other night after landing a small triple at Rio Bravo the other night. It has never happened to me before but knew what it was immediately. Bike came to a quick stop and I just kinda jumped over the bars and landed on my feet. When I looked at the bike, it was exactly what I thought it felt like, so I left the bike on the track, walked to my truck, grabbed a beer, and then had the track personnel grab the tractor adn help me get the bike off the track. Growing up I always had someone to work on my bike, but when I hit 16 and started working at shops I built bikes, and as I got faster learned what to always check before you ride each moto. Spokes are always on that list, and keep in mind all spokes were tight, the wheel was straight, and I havent experienced a mechanical DNF in well over 10 years. My bikes are never "Pretty" but they are always solid b/c im such a nerd about maintenance. Anyways...

Here is the result:







KTM stepped up and are replacing the wheel, which im not surprised b/c they have always had my back as a previous dealer and multi-bike owner. It was just a freak deal, and thought you guys would find this pretty gnarly.
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MxKing809 9/22/2015 2:18pm
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Holy shit..... you endo or what?!?! That's crazy!
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Jaybird67k 9/22/2015 2:28pm
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Ryan.........you sure you didn't drink the beer before the ride......lol. jk

Pretty gnarly !!!

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Graybeard 9/22/2015 2:33pm
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Ryan........really??? At Rio???? Where did you manage to do THAT?!!!
Glad you were able to step off, though--A pack of zip ties should get them spokes right back in line real quick!

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mx836 9/22/2015 2:33pm
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I would certainly be interested to hear how that wheel got so effed!
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Motoxdoc 9/22/2015 2:49pm
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Seems like you got away lucky. No injury and it looks like all you need is a spoke kit....and done! If that happened to me, the hub would've shattered, the rim would've cracked, the disc would be bent and I would need a ride to the hospital! May I suggest buying a lottery ticket with your spoke kit?
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peelout 9/22/2015 2:53pm
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you'd be doing all us KTM guys a huge favor by photo-shopping the fender yellow or something bro

hah glad you're ok, never have witnessed anything like that and knock on wood i've never broken a single spoke
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Grieby54 9/22/2015 2:56pm
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I wouldn't even be able to get my bike home like that...
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loftyair 9/22/2015 3:44pm
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So what was it? Rim, nipples, spoke threads, spoke heads, or hub?
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jeffro503 9/22/2015 3:49pm
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Damn! Just glad to hear you're ok. That could of been terrible.
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Xracerdone 9/22/2015 4:08pm
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Wow, first you can't whip a KTM now their wheels explode upon impact, crazy shit
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mxjeff575 9/22/2015 4:20pm
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That's pretty scary. Any idea what caused it to fail so suddenly? Is KTM going to do any material testing on this failure? Doesn't sound like you subjected it to anything it shouldn't have been able to handle.
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scrubbin627 9/22/2015 6:11pm
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Wow, I can honestly say I have never done that. Congrats man. Glad you didn't injure yourself.
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racer495a 9/22/2015 6:30pm
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I saw a similar result on a magazine first impression online, I can't remember which one
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CarlinoJoeVideo 9/22/2015 6:40pm
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racer495a wrote:
I saw a similar result on a magazine first impression online, I can't remember which one
Yeah I remember that also. Hummm who was it though...

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Crush 9/22/2015 9:51pm
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Dang, lucky you're no hurt bud!

What was the obstacle?
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RPM68 9/23/2015 6:48am
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Most technicians ive SPOKEn with say they were over tightened from the manufacturer, KTM agreed. I just rode it out about 10 feet and jumped over the bars like a boss.

They all broke in the same spot, about 10mm above the threads, right where the spokes get thin. I know KTM changed the part number in 2016 but not sure what about it is different from previous years. I have a Dubya rear wheel assembly off my 300 ima put on, but gotta come outta pocket for the front.

I gotta say im pretty impressed with the strength of the rim, the only nipple that pulled through broke and is stuck inside the rim, so the nipple broke before the rim.

KTM is replacing the wheel assembly, front rotor, and brake lever from dropping the bike. It's the only triple the track has and I had hit it first lap, 2nd lap, boom. Everyone that helped my bike off the track was blown away I didn't wad myself up, I just pounded a beer or 2 (or 5) waiting for my heart rate to drop, shit was gnarly.
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dura max 9/23/2015 7:37am
9/23/2015 7:37am Edited Date/Time 9/23/2015 7:42am
RPM68 wrote:
Something interesting happened the other night after landing a small triple at Rio Bravo the other night. It has never happened to me before but knew...
Something interesting happened the other night after landing a small triple at Rio Bravo the other night. It has never happened to me before but knew what it was immediately. Bike came to a quick stop and I just kinda jumped over the bars and landed on my feet. When I looked at the bike, it was exactly what I thought it felt like, so I left the bike on the track, walked to my truck, grabbed a beer, and then had the track personnel grab the tractor adn help me get the bike off the track. Growing up I always had someone to work on my bike, but when I hit 16 and started working at shops I built bikes, and as I got faster learned what to always check before you ride each moto. Spokes are always on that list, and keep in mind all spokes were tight, the wheel was straight, and I havent experienced a mechanical DNF in well over 10 years. My bikes are never "Pretty" but they are always solid b/c im such a nerd about maintenance. Anyways...

Here is the result:







KTM stepped up and are replacing the wheel, which im not surprised b/c they have always had my back as a previous dealer and multi-bike owner. It was just a freak deal, and thought you guys would find this pretty gnarly.
That's the second one I've seen. The other was from Dirt Rider.

http://www.dirtrider.com/dirt-rider-2016-450-mx-shootout-preview

Scary stuff. Quite possibly the worst thing that can happen while riding. Can you say , "lawn dart"?
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Lightning78 9/23/2015 7:41am
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It was dirtrider that the front wheel broke on, the exact same way
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dura max 9/23/2015 7:43am
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Lightning78 wrote:
It was dirtrider that the front wheel broke on, the exact same way
Yes. I just found the link.
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DPR250R 9/23/2015 7:51am
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Grant Langston just took his shirt off.
Andy_Greenney 9/23/2015 7:54am
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Had a friend that kept breaking wheels, turned out he kept 'checking' his spokes and over tightening them (not implying that was your problem)
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dura max 9/23/2015 7:56am
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Andy_Greenney wrote:
Had a friend that kept breaking wheels, turned out he kept 'checking' his spokes and over tightening them (not implying that was your problem)
That's what they make torque wrenches for. Keeps the guess work out of it.
YellowZonker 9/23/2015 8:21am
9/23/2015 8:21am
I read that KTM stopped putting a coating on their spokes this year because they found out it was actually making them weaker. I doubt that has anything to do with this though.
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RPM68 9/23/2015 8:25am
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DPR250R wrote:
Grant Langston just took his shirt off.
I actually tweeted this to GL, he seemed to get a kick outta it. MAkes me wish I woulda called into the pulp show and talked to keefer about it!
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Markopolo400 9/23/2015 8:27am
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I'm guessing the spoke tightening tool at the factory that day was out of cal.

Kudos the KTM for replacing everything down to the brake lever. I highly doubt any Japanese OEM would do that.
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RPM68 9/23/2015 8:29am
9/23/2015 8:29am
CALLING KEEFER! You out there bro? give us some insight!

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