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Why is this the last National at Southwick?
Let me start off by saying that I’m not buying the “love” being spread
around by MX Sports. Having observed a methodical, slow, reshaping of the entire National promotion apparatus, I was very suspicious when I heard that MX 338 “couldn’t come to an agreement with the land owner”
BULL SHIT !!
It didn’t take long to find out that, in fact, MX Sports was demanding that a large investment be made in the facility to keep the National. (Source 22 WWLP.com)
Let’s face it, as much as we love the place, MX 338 is a crap venue to hold a National.
Stay with me now, I’m speaking as a business man that must maximize profit.
As a purist, I’m pissed that this place is being squeezed out. It is a slap in the face of our history and the men that built this sport. Corporations now enjoy the profit.
What really rankles me is the politically correct crap coming from MX Sports. We expect
pasty-faced politicians telling us they are leaving “ to spend more time with the family”
bull shit.
To MX Sports, don’t you dare forget that its the hard driving blue collar blood,
sweat and tears that built the foundation of this sport.
You can spread this bull crap around for the white shirts. Purists and life long supporters want the facts.
Give it to us straight You might be surprised that we can understand, respect and support a change for pure profit reasons.
Let me start off by saying that I’m not buying the “love” being spread
around by MX Sports. Having observed a methodical, slow, reshaping of the entire National promotion apparatus, I was very suspicious when I heard that MX 338 “couldn’t come to an agreement with the land owner”
BULL SHIT !!
It didn’t take long to find out that, in fact, MX Sports was demanding that a large investment be made in the facility to keep the National. (Source 22 WWLP.com)
Let’s face it, as much as we love the place, MX 338 is a crap venue to hold a National.
Stay with me now, I’m speaking as a business man that must maximize profit.
As a purist, I’m pissed that this place is being squeezed out. It is a slap in the face of our history and the men that built this sport. Corporations now enjoy the profit.
What really rankles me is the politically correct crap coming from MX Sports. We expect
pasty-faced politicians telling us they are leaving “ to spend more time with the family”
bull shit.
To MX Sports, don’t you dare forget that its the hard driving blue collar blood,
sweat and tears that built the foundation of this sport.
You can spread this bull crap around for the white shirts. Purists and life long supporters want the facts.
Give it to us straight You might be surprised that we can understand, respect and support a change for pure profit reasons.
The facility needs work, What should people do just sit back and let it be the same ?
You wanna see the toughest of the toughest moto racers ever, watch some video of the old 2-stroke nationals held there.
Or, better yet, watch some local races where the track isn't touched after dozens of motos. The whoops and moguls are 3 feet deep, and the riders can barely hold on to the bars.
That is what made Southwick legendary. The "powers that be" lost sight of that years ago.
Sad.
The Shop
June 3rd The promoters viewpoint
June 7th The Legion posts response
Is this some sort of negotiating tactic?
I'll do the research for you one time.
From the source, "Pittello told 22News the track need a big financial investment to keep it on the national level, but was willing to do it."
Who do you think makes demands regarding investment on the track? The landowners? The fans? The promoter?
The answer is that MX Sports can, and will, make demands that cannot be met in order to steer a National away from
its current location.
I'll say this again, I'm not opposed to change in order for the sanctioning body to improve profit.
I (and I believe others) don't want to be BS'd about the real reason for eliminating a track that we love.
I want to know what the issue is between the operators and the Legion post ?
Maybe business dealings between the landowner and promoter on how to go about improvements or perhaps sharing costs? Any money the promoter spends improving the facility could be lost if the landowner decides to boot them out. Maybe they want to share the burden but the land owner does not want to play ball. It would be bad business to spend money on the property and then lose your lease. IMO there is more to this than MX Sports trying to "steer a National away from its current location" as you stated.
Plus the Legion says they want to keep the track running and keep the national if they find another promoter.
Very well.
I'm suggesting that we not allow this "love fest" ( including a nice trophy presented publicly by MX Sports) by
the sanctioning body to throw us off the trail.
The other "red herring" is the issue between the land owner and the promoter.
I'll submit that all problems begin and end with MX Sports.
MX Sports is the entity that can impose impossible requirements that can (and did) destabilize the long term relationship
between Pittello and the Legion.
I'm surprised that you don't find MX Sports culpable in this fiasco.
Let's also point a finger at the MX media. Why is it that I have to spend time stirring this up to get to the truth?
Where are the MX journalists who should be digging around under this?
I'll answer my own question. We have never had journalists. We've had an amen choir that is beholden in some way to the factories, the big magazines, the sanctioning body or some other cash cow.
I want to put the finger on the chicken shit job that the purveyors of information are producing for the mx purists, casual fans
and potential fans.
Where the hell is real information?
I expect, in fact I demand, real investigative information when a historic venue like Southwick is being shut down!
It's the same reason the "kick ass 2 strokes" thread hasn't made hof yet. It doesn't fit the agenda.
Kinda like having to listen to Emig pump Kawis nads (with RC chiming in when he is in the both with "our factory 125's never would have cleared that. These 4 stroke 250's make it easily." Nobody gives a fuck, other than the companies that are afraid that if their bikes aren't faster every year, no one will buy them.
If so, at least they are being honest about their unwillingness, unlike the GH people back through the AMA days in the early 2000's
Pit Row
When it happened, well, even before it happened,
the guy that runs youthstream, TFS, Roger DeCoster and quite a few on this board
did nothing but run around telling anyone that would listen the AMA series was crap.
That the GPs were everything, big banners,
vip shit everywhere, TV, great looking tracks blah blah blah.
I think Decoster referred to Budds like being a trip to the garbage dump.
And the guy from the AMA, Dingman, did nothing but nod his head.
So, now we have what a lot of people wanted.
Or said they did.
MXSPORTS doesn't toe the line like the AMA and DMG want's, its hassle time for Coombs and company.
So the tracks that don't keep up, get canned.
It's that simple.
They're getting what they asked for.
Most of us now that the sport of Pro MX will be steered by profit and/or the potential for profit. That's the way it MUST be.
I'm suggesting, to the sanctioning body, that we be told the truth. Or, better yet, the MX journalists dig up the real truth.
That said, I could very well be that the execs have decided that we, as a group, can't handle the truth. That we might
mutiny if the full plan were laid out before us. Instead, we are fed one small piece of bull shit at a time until, several years later, we've consumed a truck load of bull shit!
"The proof is in the pudding"
The requirements must have been "impossible".
The result is that the Promoter and the Legion have tapped out ( a little UFC lingo for you).
What more "proof" of impossibility do you require?
Not a big fan of the timed qualifying.
been given the marching orders to take MX from a marginal sport of purists, to a NASCAR style TV
producing money machine, I'd do it much the same way that MX Sports is doing it.
One tiny bit of pain ( or shit) every day. Before long, purist's won't recognize the sport.
I'll say this, it will get to the point where they will take it to the place where many of us will say screw it.
You've left us.
We'll take our money, support and time and put it into another upstart sport that is pure and unpolluted by the white shirts.
And then, the process will begin again.
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