Tape delayed TV broadcast at a consistent time on a major network

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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
So you think a tape delayed, Thursday evening schedule would be better than what we have now?
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Just the concept of tape delay at a consistent time on a major network.

2 hours Saturday night throughout the season would be epic.
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SKlein wrote:
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Not the same song and dance. DMG by way of AFT has a deal for motorcycle racing on NBCSN on National TV.

If DMG and MX Sports would tape delay outdoor MX they would have time for a 125 class and could broadcast MX at a consistent time.

MX sports has a conflict of interest with their oil sponsors between GNCC and the outdoors. So are they really married to Mav TV and the poor ratings and time slot ?

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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the keyboard for a while and think before you click submit.....please
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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
DonM wrote:
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the...
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the keyboard for a while and think before you click submit.....please
Don,

That was before AFT and DMG stepped up to what we were saying on that previous thread. The way to build viewers is a consisntent time and channel. Just what Lucas Oil Outdoor MX Nationals lack.
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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
DonM wrote:
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the...
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the keyboard for a while and think before you click submit.....please
Don, That was before AFT and DMG stepped up to what we were saying on that previous thread. The way to build viewers is a consisntent...
Don,

That was before AFT and DMG stepped up to what we were saying on that previous thread. The way to build viewers is a consisntent time and channel. Just what Lucas Oil Outdoor MX Nationals lack.
So bump the old thread ffs.
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The show's already started, no turning back now.
Not the same song and dance. DMG by way of AFT has a deal for motorcycle racing on NBCSN on National TV. If DMG and MX...
Not the same song and dance. DMG by way of AFT has a deal for motorcycle racing on NBCSN on National TV.

If DMG and MX Sports would tape delay outdoor MX they would have time for a 125 class and could broadcast MX at a consistent time.

MX sports has a conflict of interest with their oil sponsors between GNCC and the outdoors. So are they really married to Mav TV and the poor ratings and time slot ?

MX Sports brought in Alli Sports (aka NBCSN) to pay for TV. Without NBCSN (Alli Sports is no longer) and Lucas Oil, it wouldn't be live (and possibly not the same day). It cost way more to produce a mx show than supercross; stadiums are wired and not spread across miles, etc.

Alli Sports, Fuel TV and Speed TV all went away. Fuel going away (which was in SD btw) is why the first motos are on MAVTV. No other "big" network was beating down the door to pay to air motocross. Not sure what ratings have to do with MAVTV, as 2nd motos are on NBC and NBCSN...doesn't get much bigger than NBC.

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American Flat Track is the passion of Jim France and the reason he bought the rights to ama pro racing. I wouldnt be surprised if he bought the timeslot for the airing of it.
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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
DonM wrote:
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the...
Come on man didn't you just start a thread the other day about the exact same thing??? Before you start another thread step away from the keyboard for a while and think before you click submit.....please
Don, That was before AFT and DMG stepped up to what we were saying on that previous thread. The way to build viewers is a consisntent...
Don,

That was before AFT and DMG stepped up to what we were saying on that previous thread. The way to build viewers is a consisntent time and channel. Just what Lucas Oil Outdoor MX Nationals lack.
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer it to be available live.
1/12/2017 7:21pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 7:54pm
2thefront wrote:
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer...
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer it to be available live.
No kidding. I don't care about the start times, because I watch them on the DVR when it's convenient to me.

But make note than all four motos (250 and 450) are presented live across two networks (MavTV and NBC). For sports, there is NEVER anything better than live and complete coverage. Tape-delaying the races and cutting them down to highlights would be a step backward (and just fucking stupid).
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AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve...
AFT is owned by the same guys that own The National MX Series. Maybe MX Sports who runs the series will catch a clue and improve MX TV ratings with the same concept ? And improve Live PPV online for the diehards?

American Flat Track and NBC Sports Network announced a deal this week that will see all 18 rounds of the series air in one-hour, tape-delayed telecasts on Thursday nights throughout the summer and fall.
Seems to work for F1 on Sunday mornings
1/12/2017 8:19pm
2thefront wrote:
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer...
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer it to be available live.
Yes.
1/12/2017 8:28pm
It blows my mind how, in a world with DVRs, people still watch live sports.
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It blows my mind how, in a world with DVRs, people still watch live sports.
Me too. I'm done with all live sports, live commercials, live timing, live race day discussion and practice threads. It's a complete waste of time when you can condense the action down to a few minutes and watch it all on your phone while taking a dump at my medical billing job when my boss isn't looking.
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1/12/2017 8:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 8:39pm
2thefront wrote:
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer...
The way to get a consistent time is to DVR it and watch whenever you want. There's a TON of people(including me) that would much prefer it to be available live.
If you dvr it why do you care if it is live ?

Some of us dont dvr, dont care to dvr, but would sit down on a Saturday night and watch if it was on at a consistent time on channels you dont have to pay extra for or have to search for a time and place.

Really, 3 hours live on a Saturday afternoon in the summertime ?

Stick it on NBCSN at 9pm EST every Saturday night all summer and guarantee your ratings go up. Oh, you mean like the dirt track series on Thursday night ?

Offer a good Live PPV broadcast online worldwide for a reasonable fee.

Nothing to stop you from watching at a more convenient time or dvr'ing the delayed broadcast?

And if it wasnt live MX Sports would have time for a 125 class like the euros to help grow the sport ?
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American Flat Track is the passion of Jim France and the reason he bought the rights to ama pro racing. I wouldnt be surprised if he...
American Flat Track is the passion of Jim France and the reason he bought the rights to ama pro racing. I wouldnt be surprised if he bought the timeslot for the airing of it.
AFT will most certainly suffer from a consistent Thursday night presence on a natiional Network. And with Polaris dropping Victory and spending more effort on Indian that old rivalry with HD will make a horrible storyline.

Could we play up the Axis powers at SX with the German kid on the Honda ? No, that wouldn't be PC.
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You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly, because as others have said, you can record it and watch whenever you want. Your idea brings no good.
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1/12/2017 9:31pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 9:41pm
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You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly...
You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly, because as others have said, you can record it and watch whenever you want. Your idea brings no good.
And how long have you been a real fan ? Ever call a 900 number for race results ? Do you remember waiting every Wednesday for the postman and Cycle News ?

If you DVR it why do you care if it's live ?
If MX Sports is not beholden to Live TV they have more time in the day and could run a 125 class on both coasts and grow the sport. Like the FMF euro 125 series. Or do real fans not like 2 strokes ?

If they stick with the stupid times on the live broadcasts they will never grow the sport. Casual fans dont want to hang out for 3 hours for 2 hours of racing..

Still show it live on PPV online, or do real fans not want to pay for pay per view ?
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So new fans will not watch it live but will a couple days later as if there won't be any commercials and such is what you're saying??
Keep it live, if it's not odds are people will look up results online then not watch the broadcast of it days later. I'd bet ratings suffer. Not like they're gonna beat out the MLB game for their 6pm game slot on fox.
How does this draw new fans? Most will change the channel if it doesn't interest them live or not.
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Any chance you could go back to doing what you did with all of your fucked up thoughts, theories and ideas before 11/4/2016?
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This has been explained to you 50 times. 9pm on a Saturday is prime time. Quite a bit more money is involved with that time slot. How hard is that for you to understand? People do not care about dirt bikes. It will never work. Either DVR it, or watch it live...simple.
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mx836 wrote:
You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly...
You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly, because as others have said, you can record it and watch whenever you want. Your idea brings no good.
And how long have you been a real fan ? Ever call a 900 number for race results ? Do you remember waiting every Wednesday for...
And how long have you been a real fan ? Ever call a 900 number for race results ? Do you remember waiting every Wednesday for the postman and Cycle News ?

If you DVR it why do you care if it's live ?
If MX Sports is not beholden to Live TV they have more time in the day and could run a 125 class on both coasts and grow the sport. Like the FMF euro 125 series. Or do real fans not like 2 strokes ?

If they stick with the stupid times on the live broadcasts they will never grow the sport. Casual fans dont want to hang out for 3 hours for 2 hours of racing..

Still show it live on PPV online, or do real fans not want to pay for pay per view ?
How will having a 125 class grow the sport? There are 22 gates spots for the main in both classes and they are already full.

Do you mean that if there was a 125 class, more people would watch?
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1/13/2017 4:51am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2017 4:51am
mx836 wrote:
You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly...
You're in the minority. Those of us that are real fans of the sport want to see it in live action. You proposition seems quite silly, because as others have said, you can record it and watch whenever you want. Your idea brings no good.
And how long have you been a real fan ? Ever call a 900 number for race results ? Do you remember waiting every Wednesday for...
And how long have you been a real fan ? Ever call a 900 number for race results ? Do you remember waiting every Wednesday for the postman and Cycle News ?

If you DVR it why do you care if it's live ?
If MX Sports is not beholden to Live TV they have more time in the day and could run a 125 class on both coasts and grow the sport. Like the FMF euro 125 series. Or do real fans not like 2 strokes ?

If they stick with the stupid times on the live broadcasts they will never grow the sport. Casual fans dont want to hang out for 3 hours for 2 hours of racing..

Still show it live on PPV online, or do real fans not want to pay for pay per view ?
Lucifa. wrote:
How will having a 125 class grow the sport? There are 22 gates spots for the main in both classes and they are already full. Do...
How will having a 125 class grow the sport? There are 22 gates spots for the main in both classes and they are already full.

Do you mean that if there was a 125 class, more people would watch?
Dude,
Outdoors there are 40 spots on the gate.

Have a 125 class at the National tracks the extra riders would fit at.

4 race series on each coast. Final shootout with both coasts for a champion.

Dealers would sell parts & bikes, kids and fast guys would get to ride the national tracks.

A stepping stone class that is cheaper than than a 250f wouldn't grow the sport ?
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BobPA wrote:
This has been explained to you 50 times. 9pm on a Saturday is prime time. Quite a bit more money is involved with that time slot...
This has been explained to you 50 times. 9pm on a Saturday is prime time. Quite a bit more money is involved with that time slot. How hard is that for you to understand? People do not care about dirt bikes. It will never work. Either DVR it, or watch it live...simple.
BobPa,

As an example, NBCSN does not carry baseball. Summer programming is weak.MX could possibly be up against MLS.

NBCSN was the OLN channel that was known for the Tour de France.
It is owned d by a major network but it is not a major channel. It is available in approximately 70% of US households with TV.

Summer programming of the outdoor nationals if promoted correctly could work
for both Motocross and NBCSN. At a consistent time and as a edited tape delay show it could work? If you had to watch it live watch it online as ppv ? Like the FIM MX series ?
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1/13/2017 5:33am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2017 5:34am
This terrible idea again?

MX Sports should keep doing what they are doing. Any time I can watch the outdoors live I'm happy. If I have plans I DVR it. Problem solved. Would be nice though if people not in the US could pay to watch online like the GPs.
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This terrible idea again? MX Sports should keep doing what they are doing. Any time I can watch the outdoors live I'm happy. If I have...
This terrible idea again?

MX Sports should keep doing what they are doing. Any time I can watch the outdoors live I'm happy. If I have plans I DVR it. Problem solved. Would be nice though if people not in the US could pay to watch online like the GPs.
Your right. Dont change a thing. Ratings are growing and the sport is doing just fine.

If more people watched and more sponsors got involved , dealers may sell more bikes and possibly there could be too many classes at your local track.

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