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It's not the riders!
It's not the tracks!
It's Luongo and the Moran's who run the show! I feel sorry for the riders and the teams! He is single handily destroying the GP scene and that series needs a big boost. Of what......new friggin' management! How can it be possible for any rider or team to make a decent living except for their own personal sponsors? And I thought our payouts were sad......theirs is pathetic! $1200.00 entry fee?? No purse? No start money? No travel money?
Source >>>> http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/RUSSIAN-GRAND-PRIX-EVEN-YOU…;
Just read this........
"What if you held a race and nobody came. And, when we are talking about the Russian GP, we don't mean spectators, because Russians normally come out in droves to see motocross races. Nope, we are talking about riders. Only 19 riders showed up to race the Russian 450 Grand Prix. And the racing was less than intense as Antonio Cairoli and Jeffrey Herlings did their thing out in front of both classes. No one is saying that the Grand Prix circuit shouldn't go to Russia, but Giuseppe Luongo's business plan for the FIM World Championship is ill-conceived. He has taken away the rider's purse money, the rider's start money and the rider's travel money. He increased the entry fee for a Grand Prix to $1200 an event and you don't need to be a math genius to see that if you are an aspiring GP rider, spending thousands of dollars to drive through Mother Russia with no hope of making any money...is a failed business plan on the rider's part. Luongo's business plan is anti-rider. "
Why the hell are you guys letting this dude ruin the series? So much talent over there and Luongo is treating all the riders and teams like slaves. No wonder why a lot of these guys want to come over here. They go broke racing that series!
P.S.........Please do not throw this in the dumbgeon! I think it's a great topic and would like to hear from the guys across the pond on what should be done to get that Luongo Douche' out of the head office!
Supposed to be 47,000 spectators.......and yet he still robs from the teams and riders. sad state of affairs!
It's not the tracks!
It's Luongo and the Moran's who run the show! I feel sorry for the riders and the teams! He is single handily destroying the GP scene and that series needs a big boost. Of what......new friggin' management! How can it be possible for any rider or team to make a decent living except for their own personal sponsors? And I thought our payouts were sad......theirs is pathetic! $1200.00 entry fee?? No purse? No start money? No travel money?
Source >>>> http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/RUSSIAN-GRAND-PRIX-EVEN-YOU…;
Just read this........
"What if you held a race and nobody came. And, when we are talking about the Russian GP, we don't mean spectators, because Russians normally come out in droves to see motocross races. Nope, we are talking about riders. Only 19 riders showed up to race the Russian 450 Grand Prix. And the racing was less than intense as Antonio Cairoli and Jeffrey Herlings did their thing out in front of both classes. No one is saying that the Grand Prix circuit shouldn't go to Russia, but Giuseppe Luongo's business plan for the FIM World Championship is ill-conceived. He has taken away the rider's purse money, the rider's start money and the rider's travel money. He increased the entry fee for a Grand Prix to $1200 an event and you don't need to be a math genius to see that if you are an aspiring GP rider, spending thousands of dollars to drive through Mother Russia with no hope of making any money...is a failed business plan on the rider's part. Luongo's business plan is anti-rider. "
Why the hell are you guys letting this dude ruin the series? So much talent over there and Luongo is treating all the riders and teams like slaves. No wonder why a lot of these guys want to come over here. They go broke racing that series!
P.S.........Please do not throw this in the dumbgeon! I think it's a great topic and would like to hear from the guys across the pond on what should be done to get that Luongo Douche' out of the head office!
Supposed to be 47,000 spectators.......and yet he still robs from the teams and riders. sad state of affairs!
The Shop
All the journalist who follow Gp's can't write what they really feel or that won't be allowed back in!!
I wish the riders would be more vocal.
Luongo just cares about his top 15. After that they are just fillers could be 20 russians, Thai, mexicans.... they are not going to be on TV and no one will speak about them. The whole model is around the teams not the riders. Teams pay an annual fee to field like two spots if you are rich enough you can buy your way in.
Luonogo/Youthstream has done a lot to raise the profile of the series, but I get the impression he is feathering his own nest at the expense of the teams and riders, and the quality of the events is suffering as a result.
2) Second-tier riders won't say anything because they hope they'll pick up a paying ride next year and don't want to lose their ride/entry. There is always somebody else willing to take their ride for free.
3) 'Good' (but paying to be in a team) riders won't say anything because again, they hope to earn a paying (or free) ride next year.
4) No-hoper paying riders won't say anything because the screwed-up system is their ticket to a GP start.
5) Teams won't say anything because a) they're fearful of repercussions, and b) the lack of qualification allows for/encourages them to take on mobile sponsors in the shape of paying riders, which, for the smaller teams is their only way to make ends meet.
6) Journalists won't say anything because a) from a selfish point of view they're looked after quite well, and b) their pass would disappear faster than you could say "censorship". There is always another wannabee journo willing to take their place and work for next to nothing.
7) The FIM won't say anything because the top brass don't know how fucked up it is because their 'man' at GPs is, shall we say, 'friends', with the promoter.
Didn't he buy the series, not once, but twice?
He owns it.
Only thing I see one could do is start another whole complete series,
like MXSPORTS is doing with GNCC, or AHRMA did when they got the boot from the AMA.
"World Championship MX", or WCM, brought to you by the guys sick of ' well, you know, what's his name.
You mean, If the top guys go in against what the pope of YS says and does, then the top guys are out of a job.
i still see YS as the murderer of the glorious and epic Citadel of Namur.
Is it my imagination , or are things getting worse overt there?
What would really be cool , is if all the teams , top riders ( hell all the riders! ) had their own meeting of sorts , got all their ducks in a row........Formed a union!.....and stuck it to Luongo. His series would fail if he didn't give in to their demands. He would have no choice if all of them stuck together.
Sure the top riders are getting paid from the factories.....but the smaller teams and privateers? I'm a secret GP maniac and I simply love that series! They have a bunch of great riders , really cool teams and so forth........and they have a mad man running the show,
I will say this.....we are extremely lucky to have an enthusiast like Davey along with MxSports , Allisports and so forth running everything. We get all our media stuff pretty much for free.....while YT charges an arm and a leg to even be able to watch the races. Everything over there " costs"........it's selfish!
Where is the " Lets give back to the sport" type attitude.
IF the GP's could some how get a person to run the show like the way Davey does over here.......just think of the possibilities. Get the GP's back up on their feet and maybe have that person and Davey work together and combines some racing between the two series........THAT right there would be awesome!
Sorry for the rant.........just feel bad for you guys over there. I hope something changes before that A-hole burns the series to the ground.
Pit Row
That said, it's defacto the case that neither the FIM nor the AMA really matter any more. MX and SX are being controlled and promoted by private commercial enterprises. There's nothing the FIM and AMA "do" that those parties can't do themselves. The critical thing is having the resources and confidence of the talent to make a racing presentation attractive.
I am not a fan of Luongo, although I'll concede he's better than Dorna was, but at what price to the best interests of the sport? Rob is on to something in his post, that hopefully will find all the puzzle pieces in place some day so the story can be told.
But, honestly, I don't think the sport is big enough to support a high end all-the-world-in-one-place arrangement. The a US-based and Euro-centric series that reaches out to other continents with the odd race or three a season may be the most feasible way to present the sport. That begs the question, however, of how each of those series should best be run to ensure that all the stakeholders thrive.
How did the GPs end up in this position? Does anyone have any info or background on the deal? Journos? How could such a long term be considered healthy?
The greedy asshole sold the rights is just as much to blame as this chubby Mafia bloke.
The best living for a top 5~10 guy is here, the top weekly competition is here, ease of travel, ease of life do to consistent dinning lol.... just sayin.
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