Stop RC track designing

NJKawi913
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Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 8:22am
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
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NJKawi913 wrote:
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything...
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
Track design sucks, the bikes suck, the riders suck, tv coverage sucks, the announcers suck, Supercross sucks, the promoters suck, Monster sucks..........Sounds like you all have been letting your girlfriends post on here the past few days.
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Track design sucks, the bikes suck, the riders suck, tv coverage sucks, the announcers suck, Supercross sucks, the promoters suck, Monster sucks..........Sounds like you all have...
Track design sucks, the bikes suck, the riders suck, tv coverage sucks, the announcers suck, Supercross sucks, the promoters suck, Monster sucks..........Sounds like you all have been letting your girlfriends post on here the past few days.
You forgot that the racing sucked.
10/16/2017 6:09am
Track was very dangerous in my opinion. Extremely high speed with bad consequences if you screwed up the rhythm lane coming back into the stadium. Short lap times. A total miss. Glad I had a race to watch, but I think the track design was poor and all the big crashes and injuries take away from the event. Maybe it's different for some of you, but watching the stars of the sport go down one by one changes my mood about a race.

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10/16/2017 6:09am
Yeah, idk. I'd have to think RC would know what the riders want to ride on. Some of those rhythm sections looked challenging. I think it separated the men from the boys.
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10/16/2017 6:57am
Donovan759 wrote:
Yeah, idk. I'd have to think RC would know what the riders want to ride on. Some of those rhythm sections looked challenging. I think it...
Yeah, idk. I'd have to think RC would know what the riders want to ride on. Some of those rhythm sections looked challenging. I think it separated the men from the boys.
His Daytona tracks have been mediocre at best. But, I will give him the benefit of the doubt there as the track has awkward space constraints.
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10/16/2017 7:30am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 7:31am
I honestly think the things that make for good racing are now deemed toooooo fast by the promoter with 450s, because they seem to stay the hell away from long lanes and big berms etc for most of the year and for this event it seems the speed was indeed an issue for the riders.

Now i'll go back to my work muttering about two strokes and slower bikes.
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10/16/2017 8:03am
Uhh , Yeah , for sure , no.....maybe??
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10/16/2017 8:11am
That rhythm lane was sketchy. RC even did a segment about it in the broadcast. The racers are some brave mf'ers bro!
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10/16/2017 8:12am
So was the joker lane supposed to be faster?? They were saying it was. I though it was supposed to be slower to fuck with them??
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10/16/2017 8:13am
Tricky Carmichael's tracks are just that lol
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10/16/2017 8:22am
Vet Rider wrote:
So was the joker lane supposed to be faster?? They were saying it was. I though it was supposed to be slower to fuck with them??
Normally it is. This year was different.
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Vet Rider wrote:
So was the joker lane supposed to be faster?? They were saying it was. I though it was supposed to be slower to fuck with them??
TDeath21 wrote:
Normally it is. This year was different.
Thats what I thought. This was my first year watching. I tried to catch the live broadcast and comcast doesnt have FS2 in my area. All I could get was the replay on sunday evening. And that was only the Cup main races. None of the preshow, or any of the amateur races. SUCKS. I hate you comcast.
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10/16/2017 8:37am
I'm fine with the track. 450s are so crazy for Supercross now.
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10/16/2017 8:48am
What i found even more amazing where the mini's, and how fast Jett Reynolds was on that track. Its crazy to me that their level of racing looks like old school 125/250 mains. Just shows how far bikes and riders have come in our sport.
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10/16/2017 8:57am

This was the most exciting track for me to watch of any of the MEC's and former USSX's I've seen. The split start worked well and made it very exciting, bowl turns were back and there was a ton of passing there. The joker lane allowed for a few very exciting passes, dirt was decent all night.

I would have only changed two things. Less time out back, and the transitions in that first rhythm were really gnarly coming back into the stadium at the speed they were carrying. They should have loosened that first section up a bit and then left the section as is after that left handed bowl turn.

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10/16/2017 9:01am
Donovan759 wrote:
Yeah, idk. I'd have to think RC would know what the riders want to ride on. Some of those rhythm sections looked challenging. I think it...
Yeah, idk. I'd have to think RC would know what the riders want to ride on. Some of those rhythm sections looked challenging. I think it separated the men from the boys.
Worst part of the track I don't think was really even his fault...the landing on the triple was to steep...that should have been shaved down.

There are some parts that confused me...when they emphasize the design...I think it pushes too many weird things out.
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10/16/2017 9:03am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 9:04am
"Rythmn lane too sketchy..."

"Landings too steep"

Put these boys on a track from 1986 or 1987... they would complain like crazy about "no flow" and steep landings!

While I didn't like the track overall, that one lane was good to me because it separated the field.
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10/16/2017 9:09am
NJKawi913 wrote:
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything...
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
No... can't agree! Split start was creative and exciting!! Track was awesome!! Change in the Joker lane was on point! Loved every minute of it!! Only wish Herlings and Hunter Lawrence entered!
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10/16/2017 9:27am
NJKawi913 wrote:
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything...
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
Trying to design a track that Super Minis and Amatures can race on along with the pros has to be a challenge. As for the rhythm being dangerous, the track is only as dangerous as the rider wants it to be. Like wilson asid in the press confrence they could have gone tripple quad quad, but they said it would not have been worth the risk.
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10/16/2017 11:42am
that Rhythm section was a disaster, super dangerous
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10/16/2017 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 1:06pm
That track was scary.
Too fast, hard pack, riders take big risk all weekend why this kind of tracks ?
I mean, it's like porn movies, it must be more and more violent to make the audience?
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10/16/2017 1:06pm
WCRider wrote:
That track was scary. Too fast, hard pack, riders take big risk all weekend why this kind of tracks ? I mean, it's like porn movies...
That track was scary.
Too fast, hard pack, riders take big risk all weekend why this kind of tracks ?
I mean, it's like porn movies, it must be more and more violent to make the audience?
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10/16/2017 1:29pm
WCRider wrote:
That track was scary. Too fast, hard pack, riders take big risk all weekend why this kind of tracks ? I mean, it's like porn movies...
That track was scary.
Too fast, hard pack, riders take big risk all weekend why this kind of tracks ?
I mean, it's like porn movies, it must be more and more violent to make the audience?
Not sure what kind of porn you're into, but violent porn doesn't sound very cool Bro.
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10/16/2017 1:31pm
You fricken clowns need to realize RC doesn't have 100% say on track designs
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10/16/2017 1:34pm Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 1:56pm
Personally, I think I would rather see the tracks a little watered down and get to see more racing with guys like Justin Bogle and Tim Gajser out there than see who is brave enough to uncork the quad and then wait and see who else almost has their career nearly end on the same obstacle.

As a fan, I just want to watch all the best riders....not half of them.

Of course if you ask the racers they are going to give you their agro aggressive answer about building it big and making it tough to separate the riders. I think they usually feel like they have to say that stuff in order be in the mindset to compete.
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10/16/2017 3:43pm
Rc was a way better racer than he is a track designer.... Not a fan of most of his tracks...

TP199 is an entirely different story....
10/16/2017 3:50pm Edited Date/Time 10/16/2017 3:57pm
NJKawi913 wrote:
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything...
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
Should it be hard and challenging or shoulde it be "safe " so everyone will be equal " yeah it is supercross its alot of seat bounces but in the end for example gajser is a rookie at this race, Tomac crashed pretty much on the straight? I dont think the track was more dangerous than any previous mecs it just seperated the better ones of the day. The speed they are going today is unbelivable but to be the best they should be able to tackle these obstacles right?

Supercross is different to motocross but i cant stop compare the track preps of the europeatn tracks to the american ones, leave the tracks gnarly. In the end is the guy twisting the throttle Marvin was superior and i did not see any shakes by him? If there is anyone who knows how the riders feels and actually knows what he is doing it would be Ricky. But i understand your point but i disagree , the riders crashing riding over their heads ( no i dont mean that they are unskilled or bad) but this shows wich riders who are on another level that you need to win the championship and wich riders who still searching for that next step. Supercross is just that challenging, maybe take a step back and not risk everything if they are not comfortable doing certain obstacles would be better of? Tomac have been making some mistakes recent years in supercross and at the nationals too?

I thought the track was cool the lack of racing was just that Marvin is right now at another level than the rest this showcased the extreme technique that guy got in his arsenal and he never ever looked uncomfortable atleast not to me maybe someone saw something different? (Not bashing your opinion) but i see were you coming from if they make minor mistakes the consequences can be devistating.
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10/16/2017 3:55pm
NJKawi913 wrote:
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything...
Can we all agree that RC track layouts have been less than stellar. Split start looked cool on paper, but in real life didnt do anything for me besides panic at what corner to pay attention to when the gate dropped. Then there is the rhythm section you had to seat bounce the ever living hell out of, that was down right dangerous,
Track design sucks, the bikes suck, the riders suck, tv coverage sucks, the announcers suck, Supercross sucks, the promoters suck, Monster sucks..........Sounds like you all have...
Track design sucks, the bikes suck, the riders suck, tv coverage sucks, the announcers suck, Supercross sucks, the promoters suck, Monster sucks..........Sounds like you all have been letting your girlfriends post on here the past few days.
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