Stewart + Southwick + 2004 + 125

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Edited Date/Time 7/3/2013 9:23am
Want some riding lessons? Watch and learn. Hard to believe this was nearly 10 years ago.

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7/2/2013 2:40pm
Thanks so much! I either don't remember this race or did not see it.

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7/2/2013 4:21pm
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes.

KTM guys were still running 125s that year too but they were no where near the speed of Stewart. The difference there is that KTM had yet to make a 250F...Stew CHOSE to ride the two-stroke!
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7/2/2013 4:29pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2013 4:29pm
Stewart should watch how Herlings does it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWJk0N8UbU
Brad460 wrote:
Who is Herlings?
Watch the link then you'll find out.
I've never heard of the guy. He looks slower than Richie Carmikel and Stewart battled with him and beat him so Bubba must be faster. Does this Herlings guy mostly do freestyle and backflips and stuff like Trevor Pastrami?
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7/2/2013 4:52pm
Skip to the 40 minute mark to see classic Bubba waxing the field and making it look easy. The aggression that RV shows when he's working through the field reminds me of this, it's awesome to watch.
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7/2/2013 5:06pm
Brad460 wrote:
Who is Herlings?
Watch the link then you'll find out.
SEE ARE125 wrote:
I've never heard of the guy. He looks slower than Richie Carmikel and Stewart battled with him and beat him so Bubba must be faster. Does...
I've never heard of the guy. He looks slower than Richie Carmikel and Stewart battled with him and beat him so Bubba must be faster. Does this Herlings guy mostly do freestyle and backflips and stuff like Trevor Pastrami?
Keep the faith, some day you'll get electricity back in your holler and you'll know what's going on in the world. Till then please keep making corn, you do it well.
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7/2/2013 5:08pm
bayodome wrote:
Want some riding lessons? Watch and learn. Hard to believe this was nearly 10 years ago.

Thats true American motocross right there! Is it me, or did Southwick seem a lot sandier back in the 90s and early 00s!?Dizzy
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7/2/2013 5:10pm
Walker's interview at 47:05 was a good one.

"I guess he thought I was a berm?"
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7/2/2013 5:10pm
"Stewart should watch how Herlings does it."

Herlings was about TEN when that race took place, what would Stewart have watched Herlings do, suck his thumb Wink
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7/2/2013 5:36pm
Thats true American motocross right there! Is it me, or did Southwick seem a lot sandier back in the 90s and early 00s!?Dizzy
That's what I'm thinking. Holy crap those natural breaking bumps/whoops are nasty and awesome.
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7/2/2013 5:48pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2013 5:49pm
Damn son.... Southwick looked like concrete this year compared to that years Southwick......

Everyone wanted to see closer competition and thats what your seeing. There isnt much anymore in MX and def not SX that separates the field anymore, They smooth the tracks out and make easier rhythm sections to make it "safer" which also makes it easier to where people have to ride way over the edge to have more speed than someone else instead of having to hit a technical section perfect every time to get away from guys who makes mistakes in said section every other lap. Which to me makes it more dangerous... Guys having to ride way over your head to get a half a second per lap on the field because everyone is doing the same rhythms and taking all the turns the same is dangerous. Now ppl are washing the front end in SX way more often... why is that? because they are pushing it harder in the turn to get that extra 1/10 of second that the next guy isnt willing to do... JMHO But oh well... But

That vid reminds me of RV now a days.... But not quite the same... Just something about hearing that 2 stroke pinned 100% of the time hes on the throttle... Damn thats music to the ears.
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7/2/2013 7:45pm
I know the sand is dead there now but watching that video makes you realize how much rougher the track gets in that direction compared to last weekend.

One of my friends brought up a good point....think how many races there has been there since day one. Nationals + local races then times it by every rider that leaves the track covered in dirt. Every single time dirt is being removed and it may not seem like a lot, but it is the answer to where the sand went. Plus the bikes crushing it into a fine powder then blowing away.
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7/2/2013 7:53pm
That video reminds me more of Eli Tomac than RV. Just slicing and dicing through the field, balls out like hes just in a different gear than everyone
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7/2/2013 8:37pm
No doubt in my mind Southwick was better that direction....

Doesn't matter now anyways I guess
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7/2/2013 8:48pm
bayodome wrote:
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes...
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes.

KTM guys were still running 125s that year too but they were no where near the speed of Stewart. The difference there is that KTM had yet to make a 250F...Stew CHOSE to ride the two-stroke!
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125.

But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki did not make one that year.

The one and only time he raced a 250F Kawasaki was Glen Helen 2005, which he smoked everyone (shocking). They had brought out that model year 250F early or something so it was the first time he could race it? I was there so I know that part is correct, but not sure why he only raced it the one time. But I thought it was because it was his first opportunity?
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7/2/2013 9:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2013 9:13pm
bayodome wrote:
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes...
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes.

KTM guys were still running 125s that year too but they were no where near the speed of Stewart. The difference there is that KTM had yet to make a 250F...Stew CHOSE to ride the two-stroke!
AZ35 wrote:
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125. But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki...
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125.

But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki did not make one that year.

The one and only time he raced a 250F Kawasaki was Glen Helen 2005, which he smoked everyone (shocking). They had brought out that model year 250F early or something so it was the first time he could race it? I was there so I know that part is correct, but not sure why he only raced it the one time. But I thought it was because it was his first opportunity?
False. If you watch the video, every other Kawi in the field is a 250f. He rode a 250f in 2004 at Glen Helen, which I attended.
7/2/2013 9:16pm
bayodome wrote:
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes...
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes.

KTM guys were still running 125s that year too but they were no where near the speed of Stewart. The difference there is that KTM had yet to make a 250F...Stew CHOSE to ride the two-stroke!
AZ35 wrote:
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125. But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki...
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125.

But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki did not make one that year.

The one and only time he raced a 250F Kawasaki was Glen Helen 2005, which he smoked everyone (shocking). They had brought out that model year 250F early or something so it was the first time he could race it? I was there so I know that part is correct, but not sure why he only raced it the one time. But I thought it was because it was his first opportunity?
TannerMxer wrote:
False. If you watch the video, every other Kawi in the field is a 250f. He rode a 250f in 2004 at Glen Helen, which I...
False. If you watch the video, every other Kawi in the field is a 250f. He rode a 250f in 2004 at Glen Helen, which I attended.
Yea, I owned one of those tubs of shit.
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7/2/2013 9:32pm
bayodome wrote:
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes...
Still blows my mind that he was able to win 23 out of 24 motos on that little bike up against a whole field of four-strokes.

KTM guys were still running 125s that year too but they were no where near the speed of Stewart. The difference there is that KTM had yet to make a 250F...Stew CHOSE to ride the two-stroke!
AZ35 wrote:
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125. But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki...
Amazing season, without a doubt. Untouchable on a 125.

But just to clarify, if I recall correctly he did not choose to ride a 125? Kawasaki did not make one that year.

The one and only time he raced a 250F Kawasaki was Glen Helen 2005, which he smoked everyone (shocking). They had brought out that model year 250F early or something so it was the first time he could race it? I was there so I know that part is correct, but not sure why he only raced it the one time. But I thought it was because it was his first opportunity?
TannerMxer wrote:
False. If you watch the video, every other Kawi in the field is a 250f. He rode a 250f in 2004 at Glen Helen, which I...
False. If you watch the video, every other Kawi in the field is a 250f. He rode a 250f in 2004 at Glen Helen, which I attended.
I meant 2004 for the Glen Helen race, sorry. It was a long time ago, I just cannot recall why he waited until the last round to switch to a 250F? Hotter than fuck that race, I am from Phoenix and that was still some miserable hot shit that day.

Was it because the title was already wrapped up, so if the POS 4 stroke broke it would not matter....?

Just joking on that part, but if he chose to ride a 125 when Kawasaki offered a 250F, I am surprised they let him ride the old scooter. But now that I think about it, was that the year PC had Matt Walker ride a 125 and the rest of the team was on 250F's? I recall feeling sorry for him at the Phx supercross, he was trying his ass off but the 250f's were just too much more HP.
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7/2/2013 10:08pm
If we Are talking about riding lessons and Southwick aint nobody charging more than number 4....love the 141 min mark where he calmly rolls an adjustment on his clutch braaaaap

https://youtu.be/JggMsG_PCkU
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7/2/2013 10:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2013 10:13pm
I love this one....I think It's time to retire...oh wait I think Ill wax the best this world has to offer one more time before I go :D

https://youtu.be/s8RdR7WNb_o
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7/2/2013 10:34pm
Stewart should watch how Herlings does it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWJk0N8UbU
RUTCITY wrote:
YOU JUST RUINED THIS THREAD IT WAS MEANT TO BE A SOUTHWICK + STEWART VIDEO FOR ENJOYMENT. YOU BRITS NEED TO BRUSH YOUR TEETH, MAKE SOME...
YOU JUST RUINED THIS THREAD
IT WAS MEANT TO BE A SOUTHWICK + STEWART VIDEO FOR ENJOYMENT.

YOU BRITS NEED TO BRUSH YOUR TEETH, MAKE SOME TEA, AND REALIZE THAT LAST YEAR - WAS FUKIN LAST YEAR.
Enough with the all-caps already.
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7/3/2013 7:24am
Sure was some good racing back then. Fast forward a full decade and the racing itself is no better.

It's one thing for the fans to start grumbling because for the most part we don't matter, but what happens when "the industry folk" start grumbling?

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