So what really made RC the Greatest of All Time?

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On a dull Sat night watching RC own the field at the MxDN Ernee France in 2005,..loved that race.

RC simply had the perfect combination of Fierce Fierce, Competitor, confidence, size and frame, learned skill, never die attitude.

What separates the GOAT from really good riders?

Stefan Everts: Competitor, Confidence, Skill, Flow
Ryan Villapoto: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Size and Frame, Learned Skill ( only one "fierce" )
Ryan Dungey: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Skill, Flow
James Stewart: Fierce Competitor, Strong Confidence, Size and Frame, Natural Skill, Die if it gets too Tough Attitude,( + over confidence led to over wrecks )
Chad Reed: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Learned Skill, Never Die Attitude
Antonio Cairoli: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Natural Skill, Flow, ( still peaking, but not the GOAT )

Just some thoughts about the greatest of our sport, on a quiet Copperline Pale Ale, kinda night,....


---chl
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Sandberm 12/21/2013 6:01pm
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I believe its his ability to critique moto-journalists.

On a quiet Hurricane High Gravity Category 5 Malt Liquor kinda night
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Ability to be able to keep stepping it up another level over his competition when he needed to.
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jonjon714 12/21/2013 6:29pm
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Dairy Queen?

Seriously IMO, guy did whatever it took to win and was capable of staying one, sometimes six steps ahead of the competition. No one trained harder...

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neverwasfastenuf 12/21/2013 6:44pm
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He pretty much dominated every class he rode from the minis to the pros. His work ethic and determination to be the best was outstanding, just as several of the other greats before him, and after him.
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The thing I loved about RC was how fierce a competitor he was. If he lost a moto or a race, he would be so pissed that he had to demolish his comp the next time to keep them down. He often outdoors just piled on the beat downs to the other riders and by large margins.
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Lapping the entire field including Stewart in a 30+2 like a boss. And if anybody starts arguing that it was really muddy, it was muddy for him too. Oh yeah and he won 10 straight outdoor titles he, 3 straight in the 125 class then 7 straight in the 250/450 class. GOAT!
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Lack of injuries. He stayed on the f'n bike more than anyone else that could go that fast. He could pressure anyone into a mistake when needed.
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cool_hand wrote:
On a dull Sat night watching RC own the field at the MxDN Ernee France in 2005,..loved that race. RC simply had the perfect combination of...
On a dull Sat night watching RC own the field at the MxDN Ernee France in 2005,..loved that race.

RC simply had the perfect combination of Fierce Fierce, Competitor, confidence, size and frame, learned skill, never die attitude.

What separates the GOAT from really good riders?

Stefan Everts: Competitor, Confidence, Skill, Flow
Ryan Villapoto: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Size and Frame, Learned Skill ( only one "fierce" )
Ryan Dungey: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Skill, Flow
James Stewart: Fierce Competitor, Strong Confidence, Size and Frame, Natural Skill, Die if it gets too Tough Attitude,( + over confidence led to over wrecks )
Chad Reed: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Learned Skill, Never Die Attitude
Antonio Cairoli: Fierce Competitor, Confidence, Natural Skill, Flow, ( still peaking, but not the GOAT )

Just some thoughts about the greatest of our sport, on a quiet Copperline Pale Ale, kinda night,....


---chl
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll believe anything.
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Mr. G 12/21/2013 7:02pm
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He went just shy of three years without loosing an outdoor moto. That is hard to believe.
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Never lost an outdoor championship in his entire career that he entered
2 perfect seasons
work ethic
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newmann 12/21/2013 7:06pm
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BobbyM wrote:
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll...
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll believe anything.
Rex probably would have taken him down with the crescent wrench unless RC could have gotten to his gun first.Laughing
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sundios 12/21/2013 7:06pm
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The competition... Jk

he was a badasss
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bobby397 12/21/2013 7:08pm
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1997-2006 (2007 part time schedule)

1996 Rookie of the Year
15 Championships (record) 10 MX (record) 5 SX championships
150 career wins (record)
102 MX wins (record) 48 SX wins (2nd all time)
2 Perfect seasons MX (record)
Only rider to go undefeated in the 125 SX series
Never lost a MX championship 1997-2006. Never lost a title defense that he contested.
4x MX des Nations Individual Champion (3x Team Champions)
AMA Rider of the Year 5x (record)
Not to mention beating everts, Stewart, McGrath, and reed along the way.
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he made the bike and track his bitch
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cool_hand 12/21/2013 7:12pm
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So if RC is not the GOAT,...Bobby,..who is?
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tvo314 12/21/2013 7:16pm
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bobby397 wrote:
1997-2006 (2007 part time schedule) 1996 Rookie of the Year 15 Championships (record) 10 MX (record) 5 SX championships 150 career wins (record) 102 MX wins...
1997-2006 (2007 part time schedule)

1996 Rookie of the Year
15 Championships (record) 10 MX (record) 5 SX championships
150 career wins (record)
102 MX wins (record) 48 SX wins (2nd all time)
2 Perfect seasons MX (record)
Only rider to go undefeated in the 125 SX series
Never lost a MX championship 1997-2006. Never lost a title defense that he contested.
4x MX des Nations Individual Champion (3x Team Champions)
AMA Rider of the Year 5x (record)
Not to mention beating everts, Stewart, McGrath, and reed along the way.
Good summary of his accomplishments, but was it intentional of you to capitalize only the American names and not the foreigners? Surely, Everts and Reed deserve a big letter at least. I'll assume you made a silly mistake.

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bd 12/21/2013 7:30pm
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Lack of injuries. He stayed on the f'n bike more than anyone else that could go that fast. He could pressure anyone into a mistake when...
Lack of injuries. He stayed on the f'n bike more than anyone else that could go that fast. He could pressure anyone into a mistake when needed.
A lot of truth in that post:

What is RJ, Hannah, JS7, MC, Everts, RV, RC, Hannah, and AC222: win %? average wins per year? average place per year? Even with projection, I predict RC's stats are the best: hard to beat (3) 12-0 seasons in MX.

- RC's competition 125cc: Lamy, Dowd, Windham, Voland
- RC's competition 250cc: Albee, Windham, MC, Reed, DV12, Bubba, Yogi

- RV's competition: 250F and 450F: Townley, Dungey, Canard, Reed, Bubba, Windham Milsaps, Barcia soon to be Tomac, KRoc

- RJ's competition: db, Hannah, O'Show, Ward, Lechein, Glover

- MC: Stanton, Bradshaw, RC, Emig, Henry, Larocco

- Bubba: Hughes, Brown, RC, Reed, Dungey, RV

Anyone want to build a model to project JS7, RV, Hannah and RJ's career without injuries?
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bd 12/21/2013 7:41pm
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cool_hand wrote:
So if RC is not the GOAT,...Bobby,..who is?
I am assuming he believes its a hell of a lot closer than RC dominating the rest of the best.
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BobbyM wrote:
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll...
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll believe anything.
Then who is ?
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stewie94 12/21/2013 7:57pm
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not only his stats thats listed , but for me it was his never say never attitude & his ability to step it up even more & his knowledge / psychology of the sport
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Trent179 12/21/2013 7:59pm
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RC's success is easy to figure out now that Villopoto is kinda dominating.... Orange hair!
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150 wins, 15 championships. No need to say anymore really.
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MR. X 12/21/2013 8:28pm
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He was the only rider i ever heard say he could go faster if he had better brakes on his bike.
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Outsider 12/21/2013 9:14pm
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He bounced real good... not a lot of injuries = more chances to win
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jeffro503 12/21/2013 9:29pm
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BobbyM wrote:
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll...
I don't completely agree that he is/was the goat in all of motocross history. After you sheep hear the same thing over and over again you'll believe anything.
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Then who is ?
I'd really like to know as well. So far ( On this planet anyways ).....there has never been a more dominant rider in the history of this sport. NOT ONE person even close to RC's records.........and Bobby doesn't think he's the best that ever lived?

Please enlighten us.

BTW.....his TWO perfect seasons he had.....was almost 3. I think he was 2 moto's shy of having 3 complete perfect seasons. He also won some kind of a championship every single year he was a pro. 10 friggin' years of dominance......and someone has to jump in and say " I Don't think he was the GOAT ".........like I said Bobby , Please enlighten us.
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lemewinks 12/21/2013 11:00pm
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I saw him lap 2nd place at Millville in the mud 06.... haha made everyone look stupid that day, rode the track like it was dry.
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Cook441 12/21/2013 11:36pm
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I don't think he enjoyed winning that much..it's that he HATED to loose- There is a difference- What made him the greatest? His ability to stay motivated year after year after yea. His ability to use his talent but more so a strong, strong work ethic to take on any and all challenges. His ability to get up no matter what and finish a race- I dare anyone to try and find a race where RC pulled off the track....you can probably count on one hand that number over his pro career. That guy was soooo compact and sooo tough even when he did hurt his leg an decide to fix it after mxdn ass whooping...it only prolonged his career and made him and Suzuki better (big mistake Honda) Wink .....Amazing Amazing guy getting it done and proving it aint the bike...I feel blessed to be a fan/part of his era!!!!!!

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