So what happened to MM's KTM?

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A micro drone with a Japanese serial number?
Just sucks beyond belief, and really want to know what the failure was.
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Twist1 8/24/2015 3:57pm
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Honestly? A fuel pump failure.
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Twist1 wrote:
Honestly? A fuel pump failure.
Yup, I have had one happen with almost every brand... Laughing
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Jeremy Martin gave him the ol banana in the tailpipe trick on the starting gate.
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Twist1 8/24/2015 4:36pm
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Twist1 wrote:
Honestly? A fuel pump failure.
ML512 wrote:
Yup, I have had one happen with almost every brand... Laughing
Me too, especially on my bikes with a carb..

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ML512 8/24/2015 5:37pm
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Twist1 wrote:
Honestly? A fuel pump failure.
ML512 wrote:
Yup, I have had one happen with almost every brand... Laughing
Twist1 wrote:
Me too, especially on my bikes with a carb..
I'll still take the EFI bike over the carb bike any day...
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Twist1 wrote:
Me too, especially on my bikes with a carb..
No shit. I don't own a "new" bike, but are FI and Air Forks really upgrades? Seems like they just open more options to break easily.

I can see why you would like FI if you didn't know how to jet, but what is the advantage beyond that to the average consumer?
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731chopper 8/24/2015 5:49pm
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MtnBoy wrote:
No shit. I don't own a "new" bike, but are FI and Air Forks really upgrades? Seems like they just open more options to break easily...
No shit. I don't own a "new" bike, but are FI and Air Forks really upgrades? Seems like they just open more options to break easily.

I can see why you would like FI if you didn't know how to jet, but what is the advantage beyond that to the average consumer?
Have you ridden a fuel injected bike? Given the choice I'd take a fuel injected bike over a carb bike 10 out of 10 times.
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Same thing that happen to Langston's in 02 it cost them another championship potentially. JK I would have liked to seem Marvin and Jeremy run both moto's.
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MtnBoy 8/24/2015 6:03pm
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Have you ridden a fuel injected bike? Given the choice I'd take a fuel injected bike over a carb bike 10 out of 10 times.
Once or twice.

I'll take my carburetor for my purposes, but my days of motoing down and wanting/needing every ounce of performance are gone. I just think some of this technology is getting shoved down people's throats and they might not want/need the headache that comes with it. With that being said, a bike with carb issues can make you want to throw it off a cliff as well!

Am I becoming the old crotchety guy who walked to school uphill both ways? Fuck...
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tempura 8/24/2015 6:20pm
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With these "hi-tech" bikes comes more complicated issues. Langston touched on the subject throughout the race.
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Once or twice. I'll take my carburetor for my purposes, but my days of motoing down and wanting/needing every ounce of performance are gone. I just...
Once or twice.

I'll take my carburetor for my purposes, but my days of motoing down and wanting/needing every ounce of performance are gone. I just think some of this technology is getting shoved down people's throats and they might not want/need the headache that comes with it. With that being said, a bike with carb issues can make you want to throw it off a cliff as well!

Am I becoming the old crotchety guy who walked to school uphill both ways? Fuck...
Walked uphill, both ways, with no shoes on! Laughing
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MtnBoy wrote:
No shit. I don't own a "new" bike, but are FI and Air Forks really upgrades? Seems like they just open more options to break easily...
No shit. I don't own a "new" bike, but are FI and Air Forks really upgrades? Seems like they just open more options to break easily.

I can see why you would like FI if you didn't know how to jet, but what is the advantage beyond that to the average consumer?
Yes they're upgrades... How dare thee! Just like spending a few thousand on an A-kit suspension to practice race...
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MtnBoy wrote:
Once or twice. I'll take my carburetor for my purposes, but my days of motoing down and wanting/needing every ounce of performance are gone. I just...
Once or twice.

I'll take my carburetor for my purposes, but my days of motoing down and wanting/needing every ounce of performance are gone. I just think some of this technology is getting shoved down people's throats and they might not want/need the headache that comes with it. With that being said, a bike with carb issues can make you want to throw it off a cliff as well!

Am I becoming the old crotchety guy who walked to school uphill both ways? Fuck...
ML512 wrote:
Walked uphill, both ways, with no shoes on! Laughing
In six feet of snow!
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Uh oh...
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yz414 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/08/24/102901/s1200_Screen_Shot_2015_08_25_at_12.04.11_AM.jpg[/img] Uh oh...





Uh oh...
Lol
Suspension is the biggest pperformance gap $$$$#-if technology narrows that gap, cool.

I ride in the woods now. Have seen too many issues due to electronics.

A carbed 2stroke
An EFI 4 stroke with bells and whistles
-great choices
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DPR250R 8/25/2015 5:11pm
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ML512 wrote:
Yup, I have had one happen with almost every brand... Laughing
When they failed on you... any warning signs? while you were riding? on first start up?

Just curious about your experience being new to the FI world myself.
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I really doubt KTM will ever say what the real problem was. Fuel Pump is an easy scapegoat. I bet it was something different.

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FGR01 8/25/2015 9:22pm
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It cracks me up when people say FI is easier than jetting. Let's see, carb..doesn't run right. Replace a few $5 pieces of brass. EFI, doesn't run right.. drag out the laptop and your $350 tuning software and fiddle-fuck around for hours. Now let's talk troubleshooting. Carb bike--clean the carb and rip. EFI bike.. pull your frickin hair out replacing ECM, capacitor, fuel pump, fuel injector, wiring harness, testing TPS, replace air pressure sensor, coolant temp sensor, air temp sensor........
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plowboy 8/25/2015 10:28pm
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FGR01 wrote:
It cracks me up when people say FI is easier than jetting. Let's see, carb..doesn't run right. Replace a few $5 pieces of brass. EFI, doesn't...
It cracks me up when people say FI is easier than jetting. Let's see, carb..doesn't run right. Replace a few $5 pieces of brass. EFI, doesn't run right.. drag out the laptop and your $350 tuning software and fiddle-fuck around for hours. Now let's talk troubleshooting. Carb bike--clean the carb and rip. EFI bike.. pull your frickin hair out replacing ECM, capacitor, fuel pump, fuel injector, wiring harness, testing TPS, replace air pressure sensor, coolant temp sensor, air temp sensor........
So you're still on the fence?SillyEvil
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GuyB 8/25/2015 10:34pm
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neysbo wrote:
I really doubt KTM will ever say what the real problem was. Fuel Pump is an easy scapegoat. I bet it was something different.
I went about as high as you can go for the answer. It was preliminary, but they'd plugged into the bike and that's what it was pointing to.

The bike would fire and run (I watched Frankie head back to the pits on it), but wouldn't rev.
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Twist1 wrote:
Honestly? A fuel pump failure.
ML512 wrote:
Yup, I have had one happen with almost every brand... Laughing
Twist1 wrote:
Me too, especially on my bikes with a carb..
So help me, what's the latest trend, are Carbs good or bad for the body?

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