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To be honest, tough luck. Lappers are part of the whole race and everyone has to deal with them. If you can pick your way through them better than others, that's a skill in itself and more power to you.
I think the powers that be should focus on avoiding the stupid one lined sections like the one or two at Indy and let it be, that one section where they rolled that little hill turn was rahtarded, it's not endurocross...
Lappers are another obstacle on the track plain and simple...
Of course, if there is something blatant, like a lapper that impedes the race when he's not racing for position, then that should be dealt with immediately.... jmo.
Edit: Wardy already nailed it.. didn't see his post, doh!
It reminded me of NASCAR's regrouping caution strategy. No way anybody could move out of the one-lined section.
The Shop
If he was impeding, he would of been black flagged.
There is already a "penalty" in place, that is the black flag.
Regis.. sorry dude, you're somewhat wrong about what the rule actually says, on one hand it says hold your line, the other hand it says to move out of the fast line, albeit that is "when conditions allow":
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2. Solid Blue Flag :
• Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster
riders.
• When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
• Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not
impede the faster riders progress.
• Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at
the discretion of Race Director.
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fourth offense... death penalty... no wait...
In this shot they had the fast line blocked to get them to run down the hill.......Where the guy is standing was at least a 1/2 sec faster.
Their survival race setup they do is a good way to eliminate lappers and keep the exciting racing action going. Just sayin'.......
On the other end, it's not like Chisholm changed the result of the race, it's not like he made RD lose the race. Dungey had 20 laps to get to first, he didn't, it's not #55's to blame for a mediocre start and not being able to pass RV.
Villopoto was just faster.
Same in the Lites, it was the last lap, it was hot all over, there's nowhere else that lapper could have gone, blue flags or not.
There are races going on all over the track, sometimes the race for the lead is BORING.
You know when your on the freeway and jump in another lane to pass someone going slower then you, then they decide to speed up as you try to get by? Yeah that driver is Chisholm being lapped.
Pit Row
If you are going to tell me I am somewhat wrong, at least use the whole sentence or rule and don't just highlight parts of it. The first part of the rule you put in bold states "When conditions allow" move out of the fast line. Very interesting and grey, who is to determine when conditions allow?
Ok, think about this for a second, what is the fast line? Maybe Bubba is tripling tripling a section and you are doing three doubles, if he is coming and you move out of your line thinking it is the "fast" line you may get plowed. Rule number one when getting lapped is to not try to "guess" what the leader is doing, you keep doing what your doing and he will go off you, you don;t have eyes in the back of your head (unless your name ryhmes with alessi)
In SX, there really isn't a whole lot of lines, and you don't have to stop racing and like I said before if you did you put the leader and yourself at serious risk.
Anyways,
Just have to deal with all of the racers out there and let the officials make the decision if someone didn't obey the blue flag to their liking.
To me there are a couple different situations, if you crashed and are out there just getting points then no way do you wick it up after the leaders get by you, but if your in a three way battle for 10th and you get lapped, not all three riders are going to slow up the same so without actually impeding the leader there is no rule that says you have to give up, if the other two you are battling does then so what..... If you can glue yourself to his rear wheel then oh well....
That way they can make the decision for themselves. Hold my line to try and hold 14th place off and hand over my prize money to the guy who got dicked, or move over and make some bucks.
Next time, maybe try using proper terminology and you won't have people like me pointing out you were somewhat wrong. Or maybe a little clarification to what you meant when you said "the rule".
I highlighted those words that I did to point out the ambiguity of the rule.
When conditions allow... well.. common sense by the riders and if that doesn't work, the official can do as he pleases, which the above rule says to black flag the rider.
Same "grey area" as the rule about getting back on the track after you take an excursion off of it.
The rule is pretty clear really, now they just need to enforce it IMO.
I gaurantee you that Dungey is way more OK (doesn't mean he is happy) with what happened this weekend rather than if Chisholm had moved over and they went down because Dungey had changed his line in anticipation of where the rider in front of him "was" heading.
people have to understand you're in a dogfight out there for 15-18 minutes doing the toughest sport in the world and doing it for the best postition you can get. If your worrying about getting lapped and anticipating that, you're in the wrong sport.
I think we all get it, we just don't want the race for the lead to get messed up. Very understandable. but will never happen 100% of the time.
This has been an issue for far to long......
YEARS!!!!!!
It's fixable, yet it's all on them, the AMA do do so.
It's SIMPLE!
SIMPLE's easy, they just need to do it already.
Rest assured they'll do absolutely nothing.
So, until it happens again...........
(by the way, it went on in both classes big time costing others!!!!)
Dave O.
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