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The replay the FIM official said he looked at in order to make his decision to black-flag Reed, didn't happen until 48 seconds after Reed knocked Canard off the track.
So, how can someone have used video evidence to make a decision before the video had been shown?
The Shop
now, with standing this incident, do you think no blag flag should ever be applied with out a video replay? if a rider was cruising the track waiting for another rider to come around to extract his revenge, should the referee wait until he takes the rider out, so he can watch the video to see if he actually did it?
The point being made here is that the FIM official lied about seeing the replay prior to black-flagging Reed.
Why do people lie?
As for the "cruising around waiting" thing, if someone is doing that, a black flag may be appropriate. But that has nothing to do with this.
Does anyone know if the flag was dispalyed the next lap? (which was not even a full lap after, more 2/3rds) or the lap after, as Chad is the only one that has said the next lap, and I can understand a racer being mistaken by a lap,
Canard made an error in judgement and took Chad out.
Reed got pissed and took matters into his own hands.
The official gave Reed the black flag.
The official lied about giving Reed the black flag without reviewing the replay first.
This is the thing....it sucks , but Reed and Canard both have pretty much said " We're over it ".......and we are all on this board crying over split milk. What's done is done and we should just move on. Mistakes were made by all parties involved.
That's the way I see it anyways.
Pit Row
Am I misreading the lap chart and provisional results page?
This was a track where the finish line made the first lap a 2/3rd lap right?
Definitely, doesn't line up with the official's statement to Racer X... more like it validated his decision... then again, it's just as odd to image John checking the Jumbotron a short 12-14 seconds after being completely focus on black flagging Reed if he was supposedly so emotionally wrapped up in the 'live' situation at hand. I wouldn't think he'd be looking around to see if he could catch the replay of it to see if he made the right call.
Whatever.... Stewart's not racing, so what's the difference
If it was only one lap and he slowly rode around on lap 10, he still could have been flagged at the start of lap 10.
Steve's usually right on with his takes. I'm not sure what evidence he has to support the fact he was flagged at the start of lap 9... but, I'm sure he'll produce it if he has something to back it up.
That's the proof.
He got the black flag 33-35 seconds after he took Canard out, and the replay of that incident didn't happen until 48 seconds later.
So the official in fact did NOT use the replay, as he claimed, to decide on the black flag.
And I believe in a situation like this, the only reason for him to lie is to cover his butt.
Look back to Phoenix 2010, where Reed and Stewart tangled. Stewart fell on Reed's right hand/arm. It broke Reed's hand. Reed shoved Stewart's head off of his arm in order to get up. This same official DQ'd Reed for hitting Stewart, and also banned him from one race.
I was one of 3 journalists who hung around until after 2 am to figure out what was going to happen that night. Reed went in and met with this official WITH X-RAYS showing his hand was broken, and the official simply said (paraphrasing), "I know what I saw."
Reed appealed and won.
This incident is more of the same: Snap judgments, then afterward trying to figure out how to justify it.
It's bad for the sport.
did you see him get black flagged on the start of lap 9? or are you taking Chad's word for it?
http://results.amasupercross.com/xml/SX/events/S1515/S1F1LAP.pdf
They've updated it since. I'm sure someone has the pdf saved.
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