Recent lap times show the 450 dominates?

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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 2:39pm
I'm lazy, I tried to dig up some lap times from Dilla but failed, but in the vids about half time during moto 1 in 450 Dungey, DeSalle and Stew was 2:07 compared to Barcia, Canards etc with 2:12. That's a pretty big diff.

In moto two the diff was less though. 2:11 RD, Desalle compared to 2:13 for CP, Canard. These where half in, so I don't know if CP did a 2:11 towards the end?

Anyway, rather big diff? I honestly thought the 450 where slighty faster, but not this much faster? I suggest bikes since RD and CP where pretty even last year?

Any thoughts?

I figure the 250 starts before the 450, so the track would be even faster for them in Moto 1? Or if it's the other way around the times makes a bit more sense, still the 450s moto two are faster than 250 moto one though...
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mxrider225 8/19/2010 6:24pm
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I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice.

I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as the day goes on.
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DrSweden 8/19/2010 6:27pm
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mxrider225 wrote:
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice. I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as...
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice.

I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as the day goes on.
But don't they start with 250 moto1? I assume they have a better track than when the 450 do their moto 1?
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DrSweden wrote:
I'm lazy, I tried to dig up some lap times from Dilla but failed, but in the vids about half time during moto 1 in 450...
I'm lazy, I tried to dig up some lap times from Dilla but failed, but in the vids about half time during moto 1 in 450 Dungey, DeSalle and Stew was 2:07 compared to Barcia, Canards etc with 2:12. That's a pretty big diff.

In moto two the diff was less though. 2:11 RD, Desalle compared to 2:13 for CP, Canard. These where half in, so I don't know if CP did a 2:11 towards the end?

Anyway, rather big diff? I honestly thought the 450 where slighty faster, but not this much faster? I suggest bikes since RD and CP where pretty even last year?

Any thoughts?

I figure the 250 starts before the 450, so the track would be even faster for them in Moto 1? Or if it's the other way around the times makes a bit more sense, still the 450s moto two are faster than 250 moto one though...
I'm not sure it's really significant on this track. Some parts like "screw whatever" (don't remember the name) required a lot of horse power. 450's could easily gain 2 sec there for an exemple...

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DrSweden 8/19/2010 7:19pm
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TMV wrote:
I'm not sure it's really significant on this track. Some parts like "screw whatever" (don't remember the name) required a lot of horse power. 450's could...
I'm not sure it's really significant on this track. Some parts like "screw whatever" (don't remember the name) required a lot of horse power. 450's could easily gain 2 sec there for an exemple...
Make sense. I'm sure other tracks migh show a diff story, but the Wick will not be one of them...
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mxrider225 wrote:
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice. I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as...
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice.

I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as the day goes on.
DrSweden wrote:
But don't they start with 250 moto1? I assume they have a better track than when the 450 do their moto 1?
250s go 2nd now, so they do have a more beat up track in both motos. Some tracks it is much closer if not faster for the 250s. The same thing existed though back when RV was on a 250 and Stewart was on a 450. A few times RV turned a faster fast lap during the race. Unadilla 2008, RV had a faster qualifying time over Stewart.
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the_wood109 8/19/2010 7:42pm
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Looked like there were a few sections the 450 were getting through easier on the webcast.

Depends on the track, but it certainly wasn't close this week. 450s had 'dilla covered.
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manering 8/19/2010 7:56pm
8/19/2010 7:56pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2010 8:16pm
with all due respect to you dr. but have you been living under a rock, everybody knows 450s moto's are first this year.
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mxrider225 8/19/2010 8:01pm
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mxrider225 wrote:
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice. I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as...
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice.

I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as the day goes on.
DrSweden wrote:
But don't they start with 250 moto1? I assume they have a better track than when the 450 do their moto 1?
Nope.


450 Moto 1
250 Moto 1
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mxrider225 8/19/2010 8:01pm
8/19/2010 8:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2010 8:02pm
mxrider225 wrote:
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice. I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as...
I believe stewart did a 2:05 in practice.

I think its just because the track in the morning is like a freeway, but gets bumpier as the day goes on.
DrSweden wrote:
But don't they start with 250 moto1? I assume they have a better track than when the 450 do their moto 1?
wtf is up with all these doubleposts I keep doing.
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DrSweden 8/19/2010 9:49pm
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manering wrote:
with all due respect to you dr. but have you been living under a rock, everybody knows 450s moto's are first this year.
I have been living in Sweden for 38 years! So yes? Sick

I have newer experience a Nats in person, and I only see the vids and results afterwards and it's not really showing what goes first.

But of course I could have done some research. In the GPs the MX2 goes first if I remember correctly.

Any, good info. This levels things some and I can keep my 250f it seems! Blush
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Cook441 8/19/2010 9:56pm
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the 250 F gusy have the real motocross track this year...just a side note I wonder if that is why we are seeing cp fade more...chow-

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