Premix vs Thumpers

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Edited Date/Time 10/27/2015 12:33pm
After yrs of being around the sport one of the biggest topics for amateurs, is two strokes better than four strokes. Sure there's advantages of having ether or, but after being around both nothing like hearing the school boy class stacked with 40 buzzing 125s. When the gates are full of 450s the earth moving sound of the huge four strokes isn't that bad ether. Where do you fall on this huge dilemma??
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crusty_xx 10/26/2015 7:08pm
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I gave up on a possible pro career pretty early, you're faster with a 4T with the current classes ofc

Now I only race for fun, 2 strokes are more fun, theres my choice.
YZ250 to be precise
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mb 10/26/2015 7:10pm
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The only time I have 4 strokes in the bed of my truck is when you add 2+2.



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zehn 10/26/2015 7:14pm
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Personally, I own three smokers, but I'm not anti four stroke by any means
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bvm111 10/26/2015 7:37pm
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Oh boy an original topic.... Outstanding!

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SwapperMX 10/26/2015 7:50pm
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The biggest mistake our sport ever made was getting rid of the 125 class at the Pro level. 3 classes just makes sense. 125, 250 and 450. That said, I currently ride a 450, and love it. I'm a big fan of both two stroke and four. At the supercross last weekend, those factory 250F's tuned within an inch of their lives sound rad when being ridden flat out.
Crisp BRAAAP! 10/26/2015 7:56pm
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bvm111 wrote:
Oh boy an original topic.... Outstanding!
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Charper732 10/26/2015 8:00pm
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I just switched from a 250f to a 250sx. I loved my 4t, I could ride the balls off that thing.

I haven't had a 2t in 15 years until now
The new breed of ktm 2ts are not how I remember 2ts being...the power comes on very soon in the rpm.
I feel like my 250sx wants to kill me. The switch-over to 2t is brutal. Its not tame, smooth, or easily ridable...but it sure does haul the mail.
coastlinecascott 10/26/2015 8:03pm
10/26/2015 8:03pm
My opinion. I run a 03 yz250 stock, pipe, 11 ounce flywheel with sss suspension. After taking a 16 ktm 450 over the weekend at the track ill keep my 2 stroke . 4 strokes feel real lazy or something. Definitely easier with the linear power however just brand specific to me it handled like crap
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Kawasaki572 10/26/2015 8:18pm
10/26/2015 8:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/26/2015 9:35pm
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
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zehn 10/26/2015 8:31pm
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
HOF shit right here. Seriously
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h&m_cycle 10/26/2015 8:36pm
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zehn wrote:
HOF shit right here. Seriously
What do you Eskimo's prefer 2 strokes or 4 strokes?KissingWhistlingCheerful

What kind of Huskys do you prefer? the motor sickle or the one you feed dog chow?

We all can agree that the 2 vs. 4 is played out... and I never been to Alaska...

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jeffro503 10/26/2015 9:02pm
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
Listen to this guy , he has everything figured out. Everything he's said is 100,000% fact!
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sumdood 10/26/2015 9:05pm
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
zehn wrote:
HOF shit right here. Seriously
Have you ever been to Palmdale ? That post sums the place up perfectly Laughing
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
Dead fucking right! I couldn’t of said it better myself. Woohoo
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BobPA 10/26/2015 9:11pm
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Just man up and ride both...

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BobPA wrote:
Just man up and ride both... [URL=http://s817.photobucket.com/user/btf454/media/0C5FAF6E-7149-4246-9F06-E2903D55D826_zpshqybdh60.jpg.html][IMG]http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz99/btf454/0C5FAF6E-7149-4246-9F06-E2903D55D826_zpshqybdh60.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Just man up and ride both...

BOOM!
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shanes 10/26/2015 9:39pm
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is a 4 stroke faster around the track ? yes

do you race professionally ? 95 % on here No

what is the most fun to ride ? 2 stroke

what can you rebuild yourself ? 2 stroke

what is cheaper to run ? 2 stroke

what is a lot easier to ride ? 4 stroke

what will help you learn to be a better rider ? 2 stroke

so make your own mind up but i know what is in my garage :-}}
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jeffro503 10/26/2015 10:33pm
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Shanes...i the 95% of us NOT racing pro estimate is a little low. I think it's more like 99.9%. Haha. I'm about 990,846% sure on this. I'm usually correct 100% about 50% of the time. If this makes any sense.

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endurox 10/26/2015 10:39pm
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
zehn wrote:
HOF shit right here. Seriously
sumdood wrote:
Have you ever been to Palmdale ? That post sums the place up perfectly Laughing
Bob Hannah was from Palmdale
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motokiwi 10/27/2015 12:00am
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Most of my friends who ride 4 strokes also mountain bike.

The 2 stroke riders don't need the extra thrills or workout.

I don't just ride - I ride a 2stroke...
Ransom_Bennett 10/27/2015 3:14am
10/27/2015 3:14am
2 stroke- violent, exhausting, and 2nd Moto treachery

4 stroke- smooth, linear, energy conservation, dry flat track cornering gold


I own a 13 yz250 but raced 4 strokes a few years back. Smoker for fun, 4 stroker for racing.
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jtiger12 10/27/2015 3:21am
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"2 stroke for show, 4stroke for dough*"

* CMRC nationals not included.
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Olson 10/27/2015 3:56am
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motokiwi wrote:
Most of my friends who ride 4 strokes also mountain bike. The 2 stroke riders don't need the extra thrills or workout. I don't just ride...
Most of my friends who ride 4 strokes also mountain bike.

The 2 stroke riders don't need the extra thrills or workout.

I don't just ride - I ride a 2stroke...
What? I ride mtb and a 2stroke.
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1stSSPZ 10/27/2015 6:07am
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Well, at my age I ride both faster (Smile and in more control on my 450f. But I ride my 03 CR250r as a practice bike and playbike. Both my boys ride smokers exclusively.
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Tpog496 10/27/2015 6:17am
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It's really not a huge dilemma. Ride a 2 stroke if you prefer. Ride a horse if that's your thing. Who the fuck cares.
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stone881 10/27/2015 7:01am
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I have owned and like both, but went back to 2 strokes about 7 years ago. Recently I rode a 2016 350 SXF and now I remember why I went back. Could definitely ride the 350 fast, mostly because of how easy they are to control going into corners, but get out of whack and look out.

I got a bit swapped out over a chewed up jump and when landed applied the standard "pin it" technique to get straightened out. Swapped 2 more times and got high side ejected. I think that had I been on a 2s that I likely would have saved that situation, but with the 4s there is so much mass it just couldn't be done.
RailinRuts450 10/27/2015 8:49am
10/27/2015 8:49am
I personally prefer 4 Strokes but also love 2 Strokes. I have a YZ450 now but would love to add a YZ250 to the line up. Both engines make great dirt scoots.
scrubbin627 10/27/2015 9:28am
10/27/2015 9:28am
I will always love 2 strokes but when I switched to a 450 my lap times most definitely dropped. I found them much easier to ride fast
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Hallzilla 10/27/2015 11:48am
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones...
4 strokes are the worst thing ever made. They should be banned forever and never be seen or talked about ever again. Then, Honda (The ones who started this atrocity by sticking their heads up their asses) should be banished from Earth and their ignorant ideals along with them. The Moon would be the perfect place for such stupidity, if we put all the stupid people (Honda/AMA/FIM) in one place (Moon), the Human race would be a 100,000% smarter. After all that, we'll have a world where only 2 strokes are made and raced at the top level. Then, the sport will grow significantly (Bigger than NFL easily)
zehn wrote:
HOF shit right here. Seriously
sumdood wrote:
Have you ever been to Palmdale ? That post sums the place up perfectly Laughing
Palm-tucky. They do have LACR though.

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