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1/27/2012 1:26am
Looks like Cooper Webb put it to AC today in the first moto......Nice Job mini coop
I also noticed like always at NMA races there are Novices running top 5-10 A class lap times..lol One of these days NMA will do something about sand baggers.
Here's a link to the results and live timing for those that need it. Hell of a turn out this year. A few classes I noticed are running 4 divisions.
http://ponca2010.tracksideresults.com/index.asp
Also, define sandbagging.
The Shop
And yes, It was good to see Cooper get the win.
250 stk novice had four divisions 136 entries. This is the fastest lap for the rider who won the division. Div 1 -1:44, Div 2 - 1:40, Div 3 1:41, Div 4 1:44 Based on these fast laps which only happend one lap and then times fell off greatly the 1:44 would put them in 17th spot in the B class and the 1:41 would be 8th and the 1:41 would put this guy in 9th. Again this is only on one lap mind you.
If you look at the 250 Stk B 82 entries the divisions they had went like this. Div 1 - 1:33, Div 2 1:34, Div 3 1:40.
Now if you look at the 250 A class 24 entries the fast lap for the winner of the one class was 1:35.
Cooper Webb and Adam Cianciarulo are running 1:41 times on super minis and the 150. Maybe they should run those in the A class also?
What does this really tell us? Don't really know other than maybe the top B riders can and do have faster lap times than some of if not all the A riders. Also that the top C riders can and do have as fast or faster lap times than some of the A and B riders. And that the top mini riders can and do have faster lap times then some of the A, B, and C riders.
I'd rather get last in a pro class than dominate the C class.
I won the novice class at Ponca back in 04, and in no way was I a sandbagger. Kids may be faster then most B riders, but who cares. Its always been that way, where there's 4-5 guys in the C or B class who will be faster.
I guess maybe I just don't get it as I only raced the C class when I would ride my supermini in there and skipped straight to B when I got on big bikes. I was a believer that the C class was for people new to racing. Always made me question why the Am nats don't just have an Amateur and Pro Am class or something.
In one of the 85 classes Jace Owen led the whole thing over Webb and something happened on the last lap and Webb got by him. The winner pulls over and does an interview and the rest take the exit. Webb went to the podium and Owen followed, ran his bike into him and grabbed his helmet and was yelling at him. Webb stayed cool through the whole thing and I was impressed with that. The Owen kid was drug out of there yelling back at Webb. I heard one of the officials say a lapper got in the way and took Owen's line and there was no contact on the pass.
Pit Row
Then two motos later on a rougher track the 250 Nov ( C) class took off. A kid grabs the wholly then crashes back to 7th.. While coming through the pack he was running 1;44-45's . Then on like lap 5 or 6 with a clear track the kid runs a 1:41 which was as fast as 5th place in A and faster then 6th place or worse in A class.. Now come on guys. That's just stupid. He's faster then 85% of the A riders at a NMA national. Which makes him faster the 95% of local pros all over the country..lol
Then in the next 250 nov heat the leader is running 1:40's..lol and 2nd is running 1:41's which puts them voth in the top 10 in A. Granted top 4 A riders were all running 1:35-to 1:39
That's my definition of sandbagging....
Here's AC's classes
85/150 Mod 12-13 #92 KAW
85/150 Open Thru 16 #92 KAW
Supermini Thru 13 #92 KAW
SuperMini Thru 16 #92 KAW
AC is 21 seconds ahead of 2nd place on lap 5 of the 12-13 class as i type right now...lol
flat bill made me laugh
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