Plus 35,40,45,50 riders in 30 B/C?

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If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
Often they'll combine classes when there's not enough in ome of the other classes: also, don't we get to drop a class if we race the "younger" class?
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RACEGUY 6/13/2011 11:15am
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Our rule book allows vet riders to "race down" in younger age divisions. It's not considered "advantageous" to race riders younger than yourself once you're over 30.
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Highsider 6/13/2011 11:15am
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I can ride all of those classes you listed in addition to the +30.
Hell, I can add the +25, +55, +60 too, if I am qualified by being at least that old!
All on the same day, if I choose.
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wreckitrandy 6/13/2011 11:24am
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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
nevermind,,,

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racer369 6/13/2011 11:30am
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He is also qualified in BOTH 40+ and 45+ AND 30+B/C for the North Central Reg. Not a mistake Bud. he just did it in CO.
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Camp332 6/13/2011 11:33am
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racer369 wrote:
He is also qualified in BOTH 40+ and 45+ AND 30+B/C for the North Central Reg. Not a mistake Bud. he just did it in CO.
Are you speaking in tongues?
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lumpy790 6/13/2011 11:44am
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its the + part......

At 50 years young I can race in 25+, 30+, 35+, 40+, 45+ and 50+ classes.
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racer369 wrote:
He is also qualified in BOTH 40+ and 45+ AND 30+B/C for the North Central Reg. Not a mistake Bud. he just did it in CO.
He's fine, you can qualify in as many classes as you want, but have to chose two for the national. The age group classes, with the exception of 30 + B/C are open classes that anyone can run as long as they meet the age requirement. He could have run +25 too if he wanted. The only reason he couldn't run the 30+ B/C class would be if he's an expert (A) rider.
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racer369 6/13/2011 11:52am
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His RPV has him listed as an "A" rider. So not eligible for "B/C"" class.
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racer369 wrote:
His RPV has him listed as an "A" rider. So not eligible for "B/C"" class.
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not eligible for 30 B/C.
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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
So you're saying if the guy races in the 35/40/45/50 classes he shouldn't be able to race in the 30 class?

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drmarkr wrote:
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not...
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not eligible for 30 B/C.
Ever?
I have been a slow A racer, by choice, not advancement, since 1976.
You think the AMA would move me to B, upon my request, since I soon will be 59 years old?
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racer369 wrote:
His RPV has him listed as an "A" rider. So not eligible for "B/C"" class.
Yep, shouldn't be in the class. It should be pretty cut and dry, in my opinion. Last year they made a few exceptions because guys appealed there "A" status with the AMA and got the golden letter allowing them to ride B. You need to get in touch with mxsports and I think they require you to write a letter protesting eligibility. I qualified last year but noticed a guy in southeast regional that was running A class at a big series the year before. I got a bunch of shit from a few guys on this board for it but I put to much time and money into trying to qualify to get down there to race a gate full of A riders. Turns out I seperated my shoulder in practice when I got down there so it didn't matter anyway, but it was still a fun experience.
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drmarkr 6/13/2011 12:24pm
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The 30 class is "B/C" only. There is no regular "30+" class, only 25+ right?

See my post above....
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drmarkr 6/13/2011 12:26pm
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drmarkr wrote:
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not...
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not eligible for 30 B/C.
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Ever? I have been a slow A racer, by choice, not advancement, since 1976. You think the AMA would move me to B, upon my request...
Ever?
I have been a slow A racer, by choice, not advancement, since 1976.
You think the AMA would move me to B, upon my request, since I soon will be 59 years old?
Yep, you would need their permission/blessing, or someone could protest you.

Like I said, search around on Kevin Cozaad and see what he went through. I think it was 07, no?
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drmarkr wrote:
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not...
If you've raced "A" or had a pro license, you cannot ride 30 B/C.....just ask Kevin Cozaad. My last pro card was '78 and I'm not eligible for 30 B/C.
Highsider wrote:
Ever? I have been a slow A racer, by choice, not advancement, since 1976. You think the AMA would move me to B, upon my request...
Ever?
I have been a slow A racer, by choice, not advancement, since 1976.
You think the AMA would move me to B, upon my request, since I soon will be 59 years old?
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Yep, you would need their permission/blessing, or someone could protest you. Like I said, search around on Kevin Cozaad and see what he went through. I...
Yep, you would need their permission/blessing, or someone could protest you.

Like I said, search around on Kevin Cozaad and see what he went through. I think it was 07, no?
AMA classification appeals are $50.00
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Was he really an A advanced rider or just a C/B rider forced to race against the A riders?
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I think Im going cross eyed, yep cross eyed.

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I think Im going cross eyed, yep cross eyed.
NAAAAA.......thats not till the 70+ cross eyed class
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racer369 6/13/2011 12:47pm
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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
Sondy132001 wrote:
So you're saying if the guy races in the 35/40/45/50 classes he shouldn't be able to race in the 30 class?

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Read this; 30 plus "B/C' no "A's" in B/C
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If you are 30,40, 45 or 50 and are a B rider, you can try to qualify for any of those classes. +25, 40, 45(is there still one) and 50 are OPEN classes. That means ANY rider, A,B,C or D can try to qualify in any of those classes. For +30B/C you have to be(lol right) a B rider. Last year I believe there were 2 riders from NY that got in that had raced A class before. One was a former factory ATV rider and the other had multiple races in the A class but I believe petitioned and got the golden letter.....

There are also those career B riders who dodge AMA events so they do not point out. There are a few of those in the NY area as well who seem to qualify for both the 30 b/c and +35 class every year but never seem to point out of B.....
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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
Sondy132001 wrote:
So you're saying if the guy races in the 35/40/45/50 classes he shouldn't be able to race in the 30 class?

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racer369 wrote:
Read this; 30 plus "B/C' no "A's" in B/C
I can read I didn't see where you said they were A riders unless plus means A ?
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There are no A,B or C designations in any of the Vet classes EXCEPT for +30 B/C where no A riders would be able to participate.

If a guy snuck through the regional, let him make it to the National and protest him there. No worse punishment for cheating than making the long trip just to be denied.

Make sure you have some documentation of his "A" rider status and maybe a printed result of him competing in the "A" class.

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racer369 wrote:
If you ride a these plus classes how can you ride the 30 plkus B/C? It was done at LL reg in CO this past weekend
just smoke them all, huckstep!
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In our district we have the plus 40 class, which is a mix of A and B/C riders. If you're an A rider you win money, if you're a B/C rider you win a trophy. BUT, once you're an A rider you cannot ride B/C. So for me I cannot ride 30 B/C because I'm an A rider in plus 40. I'd run 30A, 25A etc...
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honda907 6/15/2011 7:23pm
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If you get the "CRYBABY" paper signed, you can do this.What is the "Crybaby" paper. A form that states your an A , but your to slow to run A, so therefore you can run B. Just show up and sandbag a couple of A races and your golden, man. Cry about it loud enough and your running B.

What are the point to rules when this happens. Jody at MXA has it right. The AMA, MX SPORTS and THE NPG cannot, will not make decisions based on the rules.
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wardy 6/15/2011 9:25pm
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racer369 wrote:
His RPV has him listed as an "A" rider. So not eligible for "B/C"" class.
if he is listed as an A rider his name and information should be sent to AMA so he can be removed from the class.

if you wait til you get to LL they won't accept a classification protest from what i understand. so it needs looked at now.


since you are posting on a post board. who is it. out the guy and by tommorow afternoon it will be over.

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